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re: Was Frank Zappa somewhat prophetic?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:19 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:19 pm to Bass Tiger
If you do as much drugs as Zappa you could be a prophet too or at least think you are.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:24 pm to Goforit
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If you do as much drugs as Zappa you could be a prophet too or at least think you are.
Zappa didn't do drugs. He was basically against them.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:51 pm to scrooster
Love Zappa, but let’s not forget his father was a high ranking member of the military. Crosby, Morrison, and Joplin to name a few, all come from military backgrounds, so there’s a lot of talk of the Psychadelic movement being astro turfed instead of an organic movement.
There’s a book called “Laurel Canyon” or something along those lines that goes in on that.
There’s a book called “Laurel Canyon” or something along those lines that goes in on that.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:53 pm to mmonro3
Frank had a great nose and a disdain for bullsh**. This is why he would hate Trump first and foremost.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:57 pm to Smeg
quote:
If you do as much drugs as Zappa you could be a prophet too or at least think you are.
Zappa didn't do drugs. He was basically against them.
Zappa also didn't drink very often, he was a very light social drinker.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:48 pm to scrooster
quote:The internet was created in 1966 by his dad's industry (DoD) and great thinkers had already been talking about it before that.
He wasn't prophetic enough to even imagine the Internet and social media
quote:
Arthur C. Clarke and Marshall McLuhan are the two figures most noted for predicting the internet in the 1960s, with Clarke describing an "Intergalactic Network" in 1964 and McLuhan forecasting the "global village" in 1962. Their insights accurately anticipated global instant communication, remote work, and information access decades before the technology existed
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:50 pm to Smeg
quote:
Zappa didn't do drugs. He was basically against them.
No, he was vehemently against them.
He expressed multiple times that he thought that doing drugs was people's way of having an excuse to act like jerks.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:15 pm to Sizzle_DAWG
quote:
Love Zappa, but let’s not forget his father was a high ranking member of the military. Crosby, Morrison, and Joplin to name a few, all come from military backgrounds, so there’s a lot of talk of the Psychadelic movement being astro turfed instead of an organic movement.
There’s a book called “Laurel Canyon” or something along those lines that goes in on that.
But I don't remember Frank using drugs ... I may be remembering that incorrectly but I always thought he was against drugs?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:35 pm to scrooster
Uncle Remus
Wo, are we movin' too slow?
Have you seen us,
Uncle Remus...
We look pretty sharp in these clothes (yes, we do)
Unless we get sprayed with a hose
It ain't bad in the day
If they squirt it your way
'Cept in the winter, when it's froze
An' it's hard if it hits
On yer nose
On yer nose
Just keep yer nose
To the grindstone, they say
Will that redeem us,
Uncle Remus...
I can't wait till my Fro is full-grown
I'll just throw 'way my Doo-Rag at home
I'll take a drive to BEVERLY HILLS
Just before dawn
An' knock the little jockeys
Off the rich people's lawn
An' before they get up
I'll be gone, I'll be gone
Before they get up
I'll be knocking the jockeys off the lawn
Down in the dew
I recommend Frank's autobiography, short insightful read, for a one of kind. He blames beer for all world wars...
Wo, are we movin' too slow?
Have you seen us,
Uncle Remus...
We look pretty sharp in these clothes (yes, we do)
Unless we get sprayed with a hose
It ain't bad in the day
If they squirt it your way
'Cept in the winter, when it's froze
An' it's hard if it hits
On yer nose
On yer nose
Just keep yer nose
To the grindstone, they say
Will that redeem us,
Uncle Remus...
I can't wait till my Fro is full-grown
I'll just throw 'way my Doo-Rag at home
I'll take a drive to BEVERLY HILLS
Just before dawn
An' knock the little jockeys
Off the rich people's lawn
An' before they get up
I'll be gone, I'll be gone
Before they get up
I'll be knocking the jockeys off the lawn
Down in the dew
I recommend Frank's autobiography, short insightful read, for a one of kind. He blames beer for all world wars...
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:44 pm to nealnan8
quote:
Frank had a great nose and a disdain for bullsh**. This is why he would hate Trump first and foremost.
Sure. And he would gladly accept O and forced vax *biden?
Maybe so. Rage, Green Day and many other so-called Power to the People bands jumped on board with government tyranny 100%.
I thought Zappa would be more intelligent, but I did not know him and his music well.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:48 pm to Speckhunter2012
quote:
And he would gladly accept O and forced vax *biden?
I am not the most well-versed Zappa person in the world, but I know more than the average casual listener and I do not think he would.
He'd be against it IMO.
He'd just irrationally blame it on Republicans. But I don't think he'd accept it.
Supposedly his IQ was north of 175. When all I knew about him was his political rhetoric I didn't think there was any way possible that could be true.
But once I got into his music (which took a while...he's an acquired taste) I began to believe it. Very smart man. Very irrational about Republicans.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:14 pm to scrooster
His drug of choice was Nicotine. Nothing else.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:24 pm to Decatur
quote:
Yeah Trump and Zappa two dudes with everything in common.
Everything? Certainly not. But they did have a few things in common, one thing being neither did drugs or drank alcohol. A lot of people might have the idea that Frank was a hippy which also wasn't true. He didn't particularly care for the '60s counter-culture, viewing it as shallow and phony.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:50 pm to Sizzle_DAWG
I think the Laurel Canyon book was about the John Holmes mass murder thing ... wasn't it?
I'm not sure how that would have tied into Zappa.
I'm not sure how that would have tied into Zappa.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:17 pm to Sizzle_DAWG
It's called Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, I actually have it on my coffee table right now. Helluva read.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:40 pm to UtahCajun
Found a data point. High Times, December 1989
LINK
quote:
How have you managed to keep your integrity while becoming a successful businessman?
It's really easy. All you have to do is decide you don't want to be one of those guys. You don't make as much money, but you can certainly live well enough.
It's a bizarre thing – you ask kids what they want to be when they grow up, or what they want to do, and their answer is, "I want to make money." In a survey among high school students, more kids said Donald Trump was their hero than anybody else.
Yeah, but on the other hand, let's deal with it as a fact of life in America. I think that's a very good indicator of the failure of US education. Now if you add these two facts together, Donald Trump is the idol of American teens, and that teens can't read, write, or do arithmetic, what do we have?
What?
A failure to communicate.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 2:41 pm
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