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re: Was Barry Goldwater right?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:41 pm to Strannix
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:41 pm to Strannix
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He wouldnt have sent a pair of boots to Ukraine
No way. He would have simply lobbed nuclear warheads to Moscow, and to Leningrad.
Goldwater, by his own admission, was an extremist. Does anyone remember the Daisy commercial of 1964? It was devastating in its impact, and stopped the Goldwater movement in its tracks. Voters were terrified of the man.
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:52 pm to TrueTiger
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It's the left that has descended into religious zealotry like climate change and wokeism.
This entire “transgender” agenda is little more than an ancient Mesopotamian sex cult enabled by modern surgical procedures. It certainly is not rooted in science or reason.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:17 pm to rebelrouser
Damn those Christians for not supporting murder!
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:44 pm to Strannix
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He wouldnt have sent a pair of boots to Ukraine
The following excerpt is from Goldwater’s memoir With No Apologies:
….Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara recommended to President Kennedy the dispatch of 16,000 ground troops — Marines — to South Vietnam. General Maxwell Taylor had supported McNamara and Kennedy followed the advice of his Defense Secretary.
[Admiral Lewis] Strauss said that Undersecretary of State George Ball had strongly opposed the move. Strauss said Ball predicted that if we acted on McNamara’s suggestion, we would have at least 300,000 American troops in Vietnam with two years.
Ultimately Taylor and McNamara ordered the troops into combat. This was the true beginning of the tragic Vietnam War.
My position on the Vietnam War was clearly understood. We should either end the war as quickly as possible — or pull out and come home.
We had the air and sea power to make a continuation of the war impossible for North Vietnam. From a military standpoint, it was absolute folly to involve American troops in a ground war in Southeast Asia….
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:47 pm to Perpetual Victim
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Was Barry Goldwater right?
About a lot of stuff, yeah.
About this particular issue, hell no.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:48 pm to rebelrouser
You’re a moron on every topic.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:48 pm to Perpetual Victim
Seems one "side" has been compromising quite a lot, because this nation has been on a steady leftward slide for decades, despite holding the White House and Congress numerous times.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:49 pm to tarzana
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No way. He would have simply lobbed nuclear warheads to Moscow, and to Leningrad.
Total B.S.
Goldwater, like Reagan, believed in peace through strength but he was no trigger happy wild-west cowboy. Goldwater indeed put the good of the nation above his own personal political ideology.
After Nixon was elected in 1968, Nixon sought Goldwater’s opinion on matters of national security. Goldwater declined because he feared his counsel could possibly taint the American people’s perception of Nixon’s foreign policy agenda:
“….Because I had been branded an atomic warrior in 1964, any inquiries I might make on this subject would probably be counterproductive.”
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:50 pm to Perpetual Victim
gay marriage is legal.
abortion is legal.
they both send money to ukraine.
Where arent the compromises?
abortion is legal.
they both send money to ukraine.
Where arent the compromises?
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:35 pm to Perpetual Victim
This is partially true. The right embraced the "moral majority" Christian thing. These people were on the fainting couch over every little thing from rock n roll to video games. All of this left a bad taste in the mouth of many Gen Xers who then rejected the right and therefore raised the following generations to go even further left. It's certainly part of how we ended up on the losing end of the culture war.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:38 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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“….Because I had been branded an atomic warrior in 1964, any inquiries I might make on this subject would probably be counterproductive.”
May LBJ continue to roast in hell for dragging a good man through the mud. Thankfully history was kinder on Senator Goldwater.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:39 pm to Perpetual Victim
I rode the Senate subway with Barry. I was pretty young at the time. He poked my stomach with his cane and asked me how I was.
Barry lived in a different time. He couldn’t conceive of the cultural onslaught we’re facing.
Barry lived in a different time. He couldn’t conceive of the cultural onslaught we’re facing.
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