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Was Barry Goldwater right?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:35 pm
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Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:36 pm to Perpetual Victim
frick Barry Goldwater
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:37 pm to Perpetual Victim
You cant compromise with terrorists
Dims
What particular issues?
Dims
What particular issues?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:37 pm to Perpetual Victim
They already sunk the GOP with the abortion stuff. It hurt worse last election than Trump's dumb arse picks.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:37 pm to Perpetual Victim
I think he's dead wrong, probably for different reasons than most.
This is may be true in certain situations, but does anyone believe you can compromise with modern progressives on a host of issues? Their idea of compromise is full and total acceptance of their terms.
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Politics and governing demand compromise.
This is may be true in certain situations, but does anyone believe you can compromise with modern progressives on a host of issues? Their idea of compromise is full and total acceptance of their terms.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:39 pm to Perpetual Victim
Because leftists are much more willing to compromise than Christians. 
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:45 pm to Perpetual Victim
BTW the modern left would consider BG Hitler, and I love Goldwater.
He wouldnt have sent a pair of boots to Ukraine
He wouldnt have sent a pair of boots to Ukraine
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:47 pm to Perpetual Victim
Yes
Christians rejected individualist doctrine for puritan doctrine. You cannot legislate your morality based on your opinion.
For some reason, many think the sins of their fellow citizens carry more weight than they do.
Christians rejected individualist doctrine for puritan doctrine. You cannot legislate your morality based on your opinion.
For some reason, many think the sins of their fellow citizens carry more weight than they do.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Are murder laws "Christian"
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:52 pm to Perpetual Victim
Mark my word, if and when these rabbis get control of the party, and they're trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Jews believe they are the chosen people of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:57 pm to Perpetual Victim
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Was Barry Goldwater right?
I don't know about Goldwater, but the Democrats were right in 1964.
They said if people voted for Barry Goldwater, we'd end up in a war in Southeast Asia.
Over 27,000,000 people voted for Barry Goldwater.
And we ended up in a war in Southeast Asia.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:57 pm to Perpetual Victim
I like Goldwater and I'm not sure of this context, my belief is this quote is out of context for whatever political point you want to gaslight us on.
How and why is abortion specifically a "religous" issue? Are Christians demanding that the babies that they want to save be baptized and sent to Christian boarding school?
Or is your argument that people with a Christian, Biblical worldview would therefor believe it is right to protect innocent children, and to use the levers of government or the community to ensure children are protected?
All laws are created and passed based on the general morality of one's culture or society. That can be based on a Christian world view, an Islamic worldview, an Atheistic/humanist/secular worldview. But abortion isn't specifically a "religious" subject. Howwvee, one's views on the morality would certainly be affected by one's religion.
How and why is abortion specifically a "religous" issue? Are Christians demanding that the babies that they want to save be baptized and sent to Christian boarding school?
Or is your argument that people with a Christian, Biblical worldview would therefor believe it is right to protect innocent children, and to use the levers of government or the community to ensure children are protected?
All laws are created and passed based on the general morality of one's culture or society. That can be based on a Christian world view, an Islamic worldview, an Atheistic/humanist/secular worldview. But abortion isn't specifically a "religious" subject. Howwvee, one's views on the morality would certainly be affected by one's religion.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:57 pm to Perpetual Victim
The problem with compromise isn’t on the right.
Creeping socialism means any compromise with marxists moves them one step closer to their goal of equal misery for everybody. We’ve seen with social security, food stamps, welfare, and now obamacare that there’s no rolling back marxism, so no compromise with marxists can be allowed.
There is no such thing as creeping conservatism.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:02 pm to BamaGradinTn
You think I'd let Barry Goldwater
Move in next door and marry my daughter?
You must think I'm crazy
I wouldn't let him do it for all the farms in Cuba
Move in next door and marry my daughter?
You must think I'm crazy
I wouldn't let him do it for all the farms in Cuba
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:11 pm to burger bearcat
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I like Goldwater and I'm not sure of this context, my belief is this quote is out of context for whatever political point you want to gaslight us on.
Barry Goldwater was a libertarian. He was not religious but he didn't care if you were. It's a free country....for now.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:18 pm to Zach
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Barry Goldwater was a libertarian. He was not religious but he didn't care if you were. It's a free country....for now.
There is this falsehood that gets spread about Christians and wanting to create some sort of theocracy, which the very idea clashes with Christianity, so makes no sense.
We want our worldview reflected in law making and justice. This is no different than anyone else in the country who would like their worldview fulfilled.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:24 pm to Perpetual Victim
It's the left that has descended into religious zealotry like climate change and wokeism.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:36 pm to rebelrouser
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They already sunk the GOP with the abortion stuff
Wrong.
They kept the GOP alive and in life support BECAUSE of the abortion issue.
Without pro-life people the GOP would have been dead long ago.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:37 pm to burger bearcat
quote:
I like Goldwater and I'm not sure of this context, my belief is this quote is out of context for whatever political point you want to gaslight us on.
No kidding. Without any context, I assume this quote is directed at Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority more than any comment about abortion:
Goldwater would kick Falwell 'a little higher' this time….
In any event, anyone using Goldwater as an advocate for abortion on demand is not telling the full story. Goldwater was deeply conflicted on abortion and wavered on the issue later in his political career.
In the early 80s, Goldwater co-sponsored an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that aimed to give fetuses that reached a certain developmental stage a constitutional right to live. Goldwater also supported the Hyde amendment which prohibited any federal funds to be allocated to abortion providers.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 2:39 pm to Perpetual Victim
Biggest mistake the voting public ever made was electing LBJ instead of Goldwater in 1964.
Yes he was right. He made that statement when Falwell and Baker were running around DC.
Yes he was right. He made that statement when Falwell and Baker were running around DC.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 2:40 pm
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