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re: VP touts investments in Central America to curb migration
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:35 pm to Ag Zwin
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:35 pm to Ag Zwin
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At least according to the report, this is private investment money.
It’s OK to give credit to the other side when they do something you agree with. Makes it more credible when you criticize the stuff they screw up.
You are either 5 steps behind or intentionally being misleading.
No practical difference.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:09 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Damn. - how old are you??
you sound like a starry eyed university student who has never witnessed the destruction caused by ill-conceived 'do-good' ideas.
God damn this is a frustrating conversation lol.
Starry eyed? What the frick are you talking about?
I’m the most anti-government spending person here. Government spending OF ANY KIND is rife with corruption and waste and, in my opinion should be eliminated as often as possible . OK, good, now that we have that out of the way…
We are discussing methods of government spending and the effects, WHEN APPLIED PROPERLY, of that spending.
Look i get it. All government spending can be ineffective and wasteful. Including wall building, police budgets, public school systems, roads, prisons, the military, health inspectors, politician salaries, national parks, public health, social security……ill go all day. Given the choice i would eliminate almost all of this.
But if we are going to give one product of spending the benefit of the doubt and argue for its efficacy (i.e. building a walll) then we have to do the same for the other options.
I’m for a wall. I’m for wholesale solutions to the MASSIVE problem that is mass illegal immigration of low skilled, workers who send their money out of the country, have welfare dependent children, cause crime and dont assimilate into American Culture.
Border security, elimination of American welfare, the reversal of birthright citizenship, stricter immigration laws…these are all things I highly support. These all help to address the immigration side of the problem. But to act like we shouldn’t also look to address the EMIGRATION side of the problem is only hurting OUR COUNTRY.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:11 pm to Hester Carries
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fricking thank you lol.
I thought so too.
But I'm still a big advocate for a wall, border enforcement, and also enforcing our laws. Deporting people, etc.
But keep in mind I feel those countries need to figure it out on their own, and improve themselves. We are talking about countries that went left socially way back to the 40/50s, so just giving them money or unearned investments doesn't give much confidence.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:13 pm to TOSOV
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so just giving them money
Yeah this would be stupid.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:15 pm to Ag Zwin
Looks like some gov't officials or presidents in those Central American countries will soon be building multi-million dollars mansions complete with a Jaguar or two parked out front. At least I know how my tax $$ is being spent.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:49 pm to Hester Carries
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This is simply an effective way to do that
While at a high level I don't disagree with you, this is anything but an efficient way to deal with it. 10% of this money will actually go to improvements or opportunities in these countries. The rest will be lost to bribery or fraud on both ends of the deal.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:11 pm to ChineseBandit58
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throw other people's money at
They don't even throw the money at the problems, they pocket it all.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:25 pm to Ag Zwin
She needs to get her stepdaughter on the payroll somehow. Consulting gig.
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