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Vox: Why conservatives are winning the internet
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:50 am
VOX
Don't be fooled by the headline, almost every word of it is false.
Here we have an in-the-wild Marxist who views everything in terms of entrenched power and authority versus marginalized labor groups that is actively ignoring the immense power wielded by Silicon Valley corporations and, in fact, claiming despite all evidence that the "top down" nature of right wing movements makes them go viral and gain support faster. You'll note that all examples given (GamerGate, memes) were actively fought against by power structures of the highest order. You should also note that this interview appears in Vox, a content creator currently lobbying a massive tech firm to further suppress it's ideological opponents.
The cognitive dissonance is off the charts.
Don't be fooled by the headline, almost every word of it is false.
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This is the story sociologist Jen Schradie tells in her new book The Revolution That Wasn’t. Schradie argues that technology is not only failing to level the playing field for activists, it’s actually making things worse by “creating a digital activism gap.” The differences in power and organization, she says, have undercut working-class movements and bolstered authoritarian groups.
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to make full use of the internet, you still need substantial resources and time and motivation. The people who can afford to do this, who can fund the right digital strategy, create a major imbalance in their favor.
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2011 was another pendulum swing, because that was the year we saw the Arab Spring unfold and there was all this talk of Twitter revolutions and Facebook revolutions. We also had the Indignados movement in Spain and the burgeoning Occupy Wall Street movement in the US. The internet was a big part of all of this.
But then things started to crumble. There was Gamergate and this explosion of sexism and harassment. There was Edward Snowden and the revelations about the extent of global mass surveillance. And then, of course, 2016 is when we really went over the cliff with Brexit and the election of Donald Trump.
But I was researching digital activism in 2014 and it was already apparent to me, despite what a lot of people thought, that conservatives and authoritarian powers were seizing control of the digital space.
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Why is that? Is there something inherent to conservatism that makes it more effective in the digital sphere? Or is the gap simply about resource disparities?
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The simple answer is that conservatives are more likely to have more resources and to take advantage of that.
Here we have an in-the-wild Marxist who views everything in terms of entrenched power and authority versus marginalized labor groups that is actively ignoring the immense power wielded by Silicon Valley corporations and, in fact, claiming despite all evidence that the "top down" nature of right wing movements makes them go viral and gain support faster. You'll note that all examples given (GamerGate, memes) were actively fought against by power structures of the highest order. You should also note that this interview appears in Vox, a content creator currently lobbying a massive tech firm to further suppress it's ideological opponents.
The cognitive dissonance is off the charts.
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:52 am to Muthsera
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Don't be fooled by the headline
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Vox
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almost every word of it is false.
All I needed to see was VOX in the headline and I know not to believe anything that follows.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:55 am to Muthsera
Yeah, just attack the only medium conservatives have to bypass the media to get their messages out, which is what this is...and we are seeing it play out on Social media. They will silence any conservative message, as they blame it for 2016...
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:55 am to Muthsera
I'd like the record to show that I said no such thing. 
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:00 am to Muthsera
So this article is basically saying conservatives "win the internet" because they have more money thus can more easily get their message out.
I don't think they know how the internet works.
I don't think they know how the internet works.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:00 am to civiltiger07
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All I needed to see was VOX in the headline and I know not to believe anything that follows.
it's the Russians, amirite?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:01 am to Muthsera
quote:So Vox is admitting that DemProgFilth have the capability to succeed.
The simple answer is that conservatives are more likely to have more resources and to take advantage of that.
Admitting DemProgFilth are failures
Admitting DemProgFilth are incapable of planning and implementing successful strategies and need to be propped up by those they hate, i.e., the successful and functional Conservatives.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:07 am to Muthsera
To him, he may think we are winning the internet because he simply cannot fathom why conservative viewpoints are allowed to be posted.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:08 am to Muthsera
It's effective because the far right posts controversial memes in the classic salt troll feedback loop.
1) post controversial or intentionally inflammatory meme
2) people react attacking the poster and reinforce the belief while simultaneously increasing the size of the audience consuming the meme
3) stage gets larger and joining the counterculture side is more attractive (and easier because there are more participants) to those who harbor resentment and outcasts craving control
4) then they start posting memes and the cycle repeats
1) post controversial or intentionally inflammatory meme
2) people react attacking the poster and reinforce the belief while simultaneously increasing the size of the audience consuming the meme
3) stage gets larger and joining the counterculture side is more attractive (and easier because there are more participants) to those who harbor resentment and outcasts craving control
4) then they start posting memes and the cycle repeats
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:08 am to Muthsera
If the internet works as it was intended to work, no one can ever win it.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:14 am to Muthsera
That's funny. Not only do leftists control the largest internet discussion areas (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc) and actively attempt to silence conversative voices (banning, shadow banning, etc) but they also PAY leftists to post in comments sections and forums (Share Blue / Correct the Record / etc.)
Perhaps they are upset that with all that effort... most people won't swallow their shite.
Perhaps they are upset that with all that effort... most people won't swallow their shite.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:17 am to Muthsera
You have to be absurdly far left to think liberals are at a DISadvantage on the net.
Good Lord
Good Lord
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:20 am to Muthsera
this article perfectly explains the cultural creators from the chans. PERFECTLY
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:22 am to bmy
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It's effective because the far right posts controversial memes in the classic salt troll feedback loop.
1) post controversial or intentionally inflammatory meme
2) people react attacking the poster and reinforce the belief while simultaneously increasing the size of the audience consuming the meme
3) stage gets larger and joining the counterculture side is more attractive (and easier because there are more participants) to those who harbor resentment and outcasts craving control
4) then they start posting memes and the cycle repeats
a much simpler summary is this: the "far right" is now the counter culture and the left won't admit this, let alone figure out why
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:22 am to Muthsera
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to make full use of the internet, you still need substantial resources and time and motivation. The people who can afford to do this, who can fund the right digital strategy, create a major imbalance in their favor.
Or, you know, have a bunch of smart people with a sense of humor on 4chan make memes in their spare time. Most people don't want to associate with losers with no discernible sense of humor that get pissy about everything under the sun like your typical leftists.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:38 am to Muthsera
Her argument has been used in reverse to explain why leftists show up in person on weekdays for various protests: the unemployable don't have anything to do on weekdays.
Maybe those people also can't afford internet access.
Maybe those people also can't afford internet access.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:44 am to Muthsera
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Vox: Why conservatives are winning the internet
Umm, conservatives win the internet because they don't based their ideology on hoaxes like climate change and MUH Russia and campaigning on their major issue: IN PEACH FOETY FIGH!
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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a much simpler summary is this: the "far right" is now the counter culture and the left won't admit this, let alone figure out why
Way better ^
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:47 am to Muthsera
Well, it's true the left can't meme
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:49 am to Muthsera
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Why is that? Is there something inherent to conservatism that makes it more effective in the digital sphere?
Yeah. In the digital space you look at words, mostly, to form your ideas. You don’t have an angry person sitting across the table from you that you feel you must pacify.
In the digital space, ideas, not emotions win arguments.
Also in the digital space, ideas can be investigated and debunked. This has hurt progressives more than anything else
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