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re: Vote to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker: Vote is 216-210...Speaker McCarthy Vacated

Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133552 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:42 pm to
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Because HB is in the midst of a criminal trial.
He'd NEVER testify under those circumstances.

He'd plead the 5th, and every viewer in the country would recognize his right, and self-responsibility in doing it. It would leave the GOP Hearing Committee members looking like partisan hack buffoons.
What you wrote is so obvious to anyone with a brain. Thanks, NC.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:45 pm to
Would.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5521 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Those of you R's who think this is good for America are retarded. I don't see how the House recovers from this (other than with a big loss in the next cycle).



So what do you propose? Leave McCarthy in there so the shite show continues?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:46 pm to
Would not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465781 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:47 pm to
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So what do you propose? Leave McCarthy in there so the shite show continues?

Who are the replacement options?

Or, more specifically, who are the replacement options who would be any different?
Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
1237 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:47 pm to
"Largest number of women ever"

That's part of the problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465781 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:47 pm to
TOO MUCH CHATTER
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:49 pm to
Leave it to a woman to make this shite about the feels.
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
4522 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:50 pm to
frick Garrett Graves
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465781 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Leave it to a woman to make this shite about the feels.

Former MAGA-celebrated, Elise Stefanik
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:51 pm to
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Who are the replacement options?

Or, more specifically, who are the replacement options who would be any different?


I think finding out that no option would be different would be useful information to disabuse the last holdouts of government cynicism.

ETA: Also, the fact that no one would do anything any different is not a sufficient reason to not punish inaction and duplicity.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53682 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:51 pm to
McCarthy should have already had the investigations and the evidence to impeach Wray, Mayorkas, Garland and Biden.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7435 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:53 pm to
Graves was on fire. Good for him.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11935 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Graves was on fire. Good for him.



By screeching the entire time?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465781 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:54 pm to
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ETA: Also, the fact that no one would do anything any different is not a sufficient reason to not punish inaction and duplicity.

Unless, you know, there was a legitimate reason (which would still exist for any replacement).
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
4522 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Graves was on fire.


Peak clown world
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465781 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:55 pm to
Gaetz outwardly pandering for donations
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22776 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:56 pm to
"We no longer value loyalty..." Correct, no one should have any loyalty to any politician ever.

I don't even like McCarthy but who in the GOP is going to do a better job? Massie is the only one I would like to see take over and even he is a piece of crap who can't be trusted because he is a politician.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91320 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:57 pm to
GOPe is

amazing. these people HATE US

BURN IT ALL DOWN
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Unless, you know, there was a legitimate reason (which would still exist for any replacement).


The caucus clearly disagrees. McCarthy only got the speakership because he agreed to this pact with his detractors. He knew and knows that he had to do more than just talk to keep his coalition together. Failures of coalitions happen all the time. McCarthy was not able to manage his coalition to avoid this. He may also not be able to manage his coalition to keep his position.

If successful, the future speaker will at least know that he or she may be removed for a failure of leadership.
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