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re: Video of the shooter for those that haven’t seen it

Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:44 am to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:44 am to
Straight up murder.

There are police standing behind her.

Good Lord.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7045 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:45 am to
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He should be tried for manslaughter.

No he shouldn't. He should be tried for 2nd degree murder
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4400 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:45 am to
If the Secret Service is onsite they are protecting the Primary, regardless of if they are in the next room or not. You don't know what that hall was or who was in it at the time. The Secret Service would also be protecting more than just the VP in this instance as they are also protecting the line of succession.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:45 am to
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Were they simply supposed to let her come through the door they're clearly guarding?
Right, it seems obvious with that latest angle on the newer video they were guarding the shite out of that hallway.

Also seems obvious no one was going to be allowed to walk down that hallway.

It's the US Capitol for crying out loud, you can't just assume you can walk anywhere you want in that building during a time of chaos that you yourself was a part of creating.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:45 am to
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The shooting was completely uncalled for....that being said, isn't this usually where you folks would post something about stupid games...if it were a liberal, of course?


She should have been aware of the fact that there was the potential for being shot, just like anyone resisting arrest should be aware of the potential for being shot. Pretty simple
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
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Only if there was someone important that guy was guarding.
Doesn't have to be someone? Could be some thing. Could be a specific room nearby with classified shite.

That room or person could be 10 halls down, but that doorway was decided to be as close as anyone was allowed to get.

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I extremely doubt there was a "Primary" in that room or down that hallway as just about everyone who means anything was led down into the basement and sealed inside.
Probably not, but it does seem to be the last spot those protestors were allowed to be, not 1 foot into that hallway.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77138 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
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Yeah. That’s not a defense either.


It absolutely is.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
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With who? The police were right there in the stairwell with her, fully armed, not doing or saying anything. They were actually watching while the rioters tried to break down that barricade and get into the hallway.



Do you need someone to literally read you a statement to inform you that you are not allowed to break into the United States Capitol building and then try to force your way past barricades that are right in front of armed guards pointing guns at you?
Posted by Vinny V
Kenna Brah
Member since Jun 2011
3885 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
Just lmao at people calling for this cop to be tried for murder. Different situations and completely different reactions. She was literally busting/jumping through the window. How is he supposed to know what her intentions are. It was chaos outside of that door
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
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He's going to prison.


Lmao. No he's not. Do you know who controls the courts? He's gonna be hero to the left.
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:48 am
Posted by cajuncdm
Acadiana
Member since Aug 2007
1115 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:47 am to
Shooter certainly appears secret service ordered to secure the parameter (corridor). In a fluid situation as such, real time communication isn’t available across the law enforcement spectrum. Secret service would have highest level and authority to secure and protect. VP more than likely was still in vicinity and his detail had been ordered to secure and protect him. That door/barricade was the threshold. Capitol police seen on stairs behind her were not privy to parameter being secured, as evacuations/relocations were happening and changing in real time. Secret service is a completely different training and objective than civilian law enforcement.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65840 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:48 am to
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And the right would be saying good shoot if it were BLM or Antifa.


In every case, far more antifa and BLM should have been shot than actually were.

ETA: Could you please give an example of antifa/BLM ever being shot by police during a similar situation?
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:48 am to
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Once again...you're making assumptions.
I already said I was.

Point is, it's a logical assumption that may be true. The folks saying they saw the video and they know 100% it's a bad shoot are wrong, because of assumptions like that.

They don't know if it was a good shoot or not.

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why weren't the police (who were in that stairwell with the rioters) detaining the rioters attempting to break through the barricade?

They were pretty clearly way outnumbered.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38455 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:49 am to
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he takes a step forward as he's trying to aim, and it's a handgun. I can see why he hit 6" above his target.


I can make that shot single handed with my off hand. It was a distance of mere feet.

Gtfo out of here with that shite.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
2060 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
Makes me sick! Fire a warning shot if you want to be a cowboy!
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71150 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
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If the Secret Service is onsite they are protecting the Primary, regardless of if they are in the next room or not.


You are assuming this guy was Secret Service. We have no evidence of that. Just as I don't know who or what was in that hall, neither do you. Now I don't know if you actually know what you're talking about or if you just got done reading a Tom Clancy novel, but if the Secret Service did indeed shoot this woman they did a piss poor job of coordinating with the police - which is kinda their job.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
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If the Secret Service is onsite they are protecting the Primary, regardless of if they are in the next room or not. You don't know what that hall was or who was in it at the time. The Secret Service would also be protecting more than just the VP in this instance as they are also protecting the line of succession.

This

It's almost like we're forgetting it was a bunch of protestors who breached the US Capitol and thought they could go anywhere they wanted in that building.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65840 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
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I can make that shot single handed with my off hand. It was a distance of mere feet.


Yeah it's more likely he was aiming for her head than for center mass.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
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I can make that shot single handed with my off hand. It was a distance of mere feet.

Gtfo out of here with that shite

Then maybe you should sign up for the secret service.
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