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re: Video: Nurse arrested trying to prevent unlawful blood test.

Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:09 am to
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19085 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:09 am to
If you listen to the longer video she tells him the patient has already been given something to make him more comfortable. It would make no sense to draw blood at that point because the hospital has introduced drugs into his system. The cop then tells her that all that would go away in civil proceedings when it would be cross checked... so in other words, they wanted blood drawn in order to claim the victim was on drugs and are therefore not liable for his injuries. As far as it going away in civil proceedings, we all know that's bullshite. That would be used to tie this up in court for years to come. It wouldn't magically go away.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17054 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:10 am to
All of those Cops should lose their job and never work in law enforcement ever again.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:16 am to
MY BLOOD IS BOILING.

That POS is nothing but a jackbooted thug. He needs to be fired and she needs to sue that department and municipality for the biggest payday she can receive. There is no excuse for that.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:18 am to
These cops deserve criminal charges.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53082 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:20 am to
If the guy didn't have anything to hide he should have no problem with a blood test
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:24 am to
The guy was unconscious you moron. You want the police to take your blood while you're unconscious?

Article about the incident

quote:

Porter and Wubbels declined to release information about the patient, but Payne’s report identifies him as 43-year-old William Gray, a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department, who suffered burns during a July 26 crash in Cache County.


The patient who she is protecting is a cop.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:26 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:26 am to
quote:

To people who consistently defend cops: this is what happens when you have a public that hero worships police, reflexively defend cops and believe what they're told

What? How does her refusing his order and him arresting her stem from hero worship?
quote:

This is what happens when you have a legal system that allows cops to kill people indiscriminately and face almost no criminal or civil liability.

How many millions of interactions do cops have with the public on a weekly basis? How many people are killed by cops annually?

The cop is in the wrong, but your post is complete garbage, hastily made for your libertarian jerk-off of the day.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36168 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:27 am to
The guy was unconscious. He cannot legally consent to the procedure. If she were to have provided law enforcement with his blood, the hospital would have opened itself up to a lawsuit.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:30 am to
what a crazy a-hole
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36168 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:31 am to
This happened in July. The detective still has a badge and it's September. If you don't think there are cops who feel emboldened by the sense that they won't be punished if they cross a line and that their department will form the blue line around them if they mess up, then I don't know what else to say.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:36 am to
It's one case. You're extrapolating to the entire country. Now, you'll respond with other cases, yet still a small number that you'll extrapolate to the entire country.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:37 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:42 am to
The story needs to be more detailed. Hospitals routinely do lab work on unconscious patients brought in to the ER. I suspect that the clarification should be, blood work for police investigatory purposes.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36168 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:47 am to
My point is, do you think this cop would have done what he did if he thought he'd be arrested and lose his job? I think the answer to that question is no.

So then why would this cop do what he did? I think it was because he sincerely believed that nothing serious would happen to him even if he broke internal policy and the law itself.

I've seen the same thing here practicing law. Police departments here will arrest people with no charge, detain and interrogate them, and then slap a phony resisting arrest or disorderly conduct charge after the fact to try and justify the initial detention. Almost all of these are later dismissed.

We have to hold police more accountable than your average citizen because of the power they wield over us. I don't think our society does a good job of that at all.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:50 am to
Cop should be fired with the quickness.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:52 am to
My question is where are her bosses and her bosses bosses. That is complete BS.

That cop talking about messing up HIS investigation and messing up HIS laws. frick HIS laws.

She should sue the hospital the city the police dept and anyone she can over this.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9173 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:00 am to
LINK

There was a police chase which resulted in a crash which caused the injury to the patient. The patient was an off duty cop. Cops always get bent out of shape when another cop is injured. The article mentions that the cop "was trying to protect him" by drawing his blood.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111571 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:20 am to
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The article mentions that the cop "was trying to protect him" by drawing his blood.


bullshite
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:33 am to
Come on, guys, the cop was totally justified. He was clearly in fear of his saftey.


Am I doing it right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124086 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:35 am to
quote:

quote:

The article mentions that the cop "was trying to protect him" by drawing his blood.



bullshite
Indeed!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Check out their Facebook.




they are getting destroyed, rightly so. you can't tolerate that kind of shite

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