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re: Vatican's top diplomat warned...nations do not have a right to launch "preventive wars".

Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
1091 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:38 pm to
I remember when the Vatican implicitly stayed out of global politics
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:44 pm to
Oh then that explains why no war was started ever, ever
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7914 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:46 pm to
The church should stay out of politics. Period.

This is a political position not a Catholic or religious one.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7914 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:51 pm to
Start using past tense when discussing the Catholic Church coverup of priests’ sexual abuse of children. Unless you have current knowledge to the contrary, then use past tense when talking about history.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1733 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 2:57 pm to
Keep in mind that Parolin is not Pope due to his extensive ties with the CCP.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18928 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:04 pm to
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That pesky historical Crusades thing must be a tough mental hurdle.
Imagine thinking the Crusades were a "preventative war".

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22095 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:05 pm to
Tell that to the Hussites and Waldensians
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77596 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:07 pm to
So we have Vatican City (Religion) & City of London (Financial) all up in arms at the same time because the District of Columbia (Military) is "going rogue"?



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:08 pm to
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So we have Vatican City (Religion) & City of London (Financial) all up in arms at the same time because the District of Columbia (Military) is "going rogue"?


Posted by WoodCrafter
Member since Jan 2010
1236 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:09 pm to
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The Vatican's top diplomat...


The Great Whore has chimed in, and can piss up a rope.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
699 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:24 pm to
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VATICAN CITY, March 4 (Reuters) - The Vatican's top diplomat warned on Wednesday that the ongoing U.S.-Israeli attacks on Iran undermine international law and ?said nations do not have a right to launch "preventive wars", ?in an unusually direct criticism of the military campaign.

"If states were to be recognised as having a right to 'preventive war' … the entire world could risk going ?up in flames," Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican's Secretary of ?State, said in an interview with Vatican News.


When are we going to revoke tax exemptions for "churches" that comment on political matters? Don't get me wrong, the Vatican has a right to express their opinion and most certainly peace should be at the forefront of that opinion, but they DO NOT have a right to tax exemption.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10987 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:26 pm to
the Vatican needs to tear down their wall before commenting
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4116 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:30 pm to
The Vatican needs to shut the frick up and work on getting right with God after all the shite they've covered up over the years.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21745 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:32 pm to
Stick with Catholic Doctrine leave these matters to the Nations.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4116 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:32 pm to
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There is no global sovereign. If you can’t enforce it then it’s just whining out of a weakness.


Exactly why we have 11 Carrier Strike Groups. Guy with biggest stick wins 99% of the time.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:43 pm to
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The church should stay out of politics. Period.


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Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12161 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:47 pm to
The Vatican is full of homosexual degenerates why would or should I take anything they say seriously?
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
788 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:25 pm to
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Chad504boy


quote:

what is their stance on preventative pedophilia?


That’s a pretty weak straw-man. The quote you’re responding to is about preventive war between nations under international law, and instead of addressing that, you jumped to an unrelated outrage topic, which no doubt causes justifiable outrage. But it’s not an argument—it’s a deflection.

Also, the premise of your jab is wrong. The Catholic Church explicitly condemns sexual abuse of minors and punishes it under its own law. See Canon 1398 §1 of the Code of Canon Law (2021 revision):

“A cleric who commits an offense against the sixth commandment with a minor… is to be punished with deprivation of office and other just penalties, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case warrants it.”

In plain English: sexual abuse of a minor is a grave canonical crime that can get a priest removed from ministry and permanently laicized. If someone were to assess the Pope’s and relevant dicasteries internal disciplining and having an issue with them not being severe enough in internal discipline, that’s one thing, but it’s not like the Church does not condemn that behavior amongst a whole host of other sinful behaviors.

But more importantly, your comparison doesn’t even make sense. The Vatican comment is about whether sovereign states can justify launching wars based on hypothetical future threats—a question from just war theory and international law. Clerical abuse is an individual criminal offense handled under criminal and canon law. Completely different categories.

So, instead of trying to derail the conversation with a cheap “gotcha,” you could try engaging the actual point. Otherwise, it just looks like you didn’t have a response—so you changed the subject.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Well the will of Israel is more important to God than the Pope's... Ask any boomer


This is about China. Dummy.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55969 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:41 pm to
Go pray the rosary
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