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re: Vance thinks aliens are actually demons
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:12 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:12 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Why would one notion of this really be seen as more wacky than another?
If "aliens" do exist somehow amongst us, they certainly would have to do so outside our current understanding of physical science?
the people who take this stuff seriously fall into two main camps: people who think aliens and UFOs are just technologically advanced beings that live in the same universe as humans, but who just have much cooler shite (technology). so they're outside our current understanding or grasp like you said, but still very much inhabiting the same universe, subject to the same laws of physics, just way more advanced.
the other camp thinks aliens and UFOs are fallen angels and demons mentioned in ancient jewish writings. somebody already mentioned the book of enoch - the source for this - which never made it into the canonical scriptures or the apocrypha.
honestly both sound wacky to me (as a firm adherent of the fermi paradox) but it seems like vance is kind of just playing to the religious/metaphysical wackies rather than the scientific/positivist wackies.
no surprise that a politician is pandering, but didn't have on my bingo card aliens and UFOs becoming a battleground in the culture wars
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:15 pm to Canon951
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when said rapture occurs Islam will be the major religion left here and everyone left will be forced to convert or be beheaded. Doesn't sound far fetched these days.
my brother in christ, it may scandalize you to learn that the muzzies are waiting for Jesus to return too
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:18 pm to hawgfaninc
that was tongue and cheek.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:19 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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my brother in christ, it may scandalize you to learn that the muzzies are waiting for Jesus to return too
The fact so many will scold you for this but will apply the widest interpretation possible for the aliens-demons stuff just makes this even more fascinating.
What they pick and choose to apply strict interpretation to, and what they choose to apply pornstar level loose interpretation to, is mind boggling (unless they're just doing what they want without any consistency)
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:21 pm to cajunangelle
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No exorcist said demons show as grey or whatever alien.
Not saying aliens aren't evil but this isnt so.
A third of the host of heaven were cast down to earth...this event is linked to satan’s rebellion against God, where he persuaded a "third part" of the spirits to follow him.they are the devils angels/demons. They are bad spirits and have no body but they can inhabit a humans body.
Maybe vance means "demon like".
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:31 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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my brother in christ, it may scandalize you to learn that the muzzies are waiting for Jesus to return too
They don't trust him for salvation and they don't believe he is the son of God so they aren't waiting on the same Jesus that I am.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Tucker said the same thing but we hate him now so he's wrong
I was trying to spot the difference. One guy is called crazy and can't be taken seriously, the other guy is the favorite for the Republican party for 2028
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:41 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Tucker said the same thing but we hate him now so he's wrong
Tucker, Candace, & crew say just enough right so their crazy is accepted and proliferated
It’s their schtick & grift
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:57 pm to hawgfaninc
Holy shite, I can’t believe what I’m reading in this thread. You people are lunatics.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:21 pm to Canon951
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also believe in the pre tribulation rapture of the church and have heard it speculated/taught that those left behind will possibly blame the disappearance of so many people on "aliens". It's interesting to me how alien life is suddenly such a big deal. That's just one theory depending on what you believe about end times eschatology. I don't know that I 100% agree with that viewpoint, but I do find it interesting.
This is exactly what will happen.
Islam will become dominate force. You dont kneel on prayer rug, you die. Personally think this mostly just pertains to ME and parts of Europe of old Roman Empire. I do think new Christians in America and others will still feel the "pressure" and influence.
The Mahdi will come onto the stage and his False Prophet will claim to be the true Jesus. He will follow the Mahdi. He'll declare Christianity to be false. He'll try to "break the cross". This is all in the Koran and the Bible. Go look it up.
This Iran mess is just aligning the pieces yet again to get the entire ME to unite under one vision of Islam. Iran was a big part in that issue.
Time is running out. Give your lives to Jesus.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:35 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Why would one notion of this really be seen as more wacky than another?
If "aliens" do exist somehow amongst us, they certainly would have to do so outside our current understanding of physical science?
agree, space is too vast for us to reach anything meaningful.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:25 pm to hawgfaninc
Straight out of The Late Great Planet Earth
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:41 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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What is an alien, what is a demon and what is the difference?
Its actually not a bad question.How does one differentiate between the two as both are by definition (including God or gods) are extra terrestrial/ dimensional beings in concept right? Now of course the term demons applies cetain negative or evil attributes but it all boils down to us just ascribing words to a phenomenon we dont understand.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:48 pm to imjustafatkid
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Scientists are discovering more and more evidence against extraterrestrial life all the time.
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:43 am to hawgfaninc
I haven't agreed with Vance with much of anything lately, but this time, I do. I have always believed that the supposed "UFO's" (that aren't just clearly faked blurry nonsense) are demons.
Considering that anything that would supposedly be "alien" would have to have the ability to basically teleport, given that nothing remotely close to us has demonstrated signs of even the possibility of life (which renders the thought of them traveling here just to mess with us, a pretty dumb theory), it leaves me with only one conclusion: It is a supernatural entity.
Atheists won't like that, but that's not my problem.
Considering that anything that would supposedly be "alien" would have to have the ability to basically teleport, given that nothing remotely close to us has demonstrated signs of even the possibility of life (which renders the thought of them traveling here just to mess with us, a pretty dumb theory), it leaves me with only one conclusion: It is a supernatural entity.
Atheists won't like that, but that's not my problem.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 4:45 am
Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:49 am to ThuperThumpin
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Its actually not a bad question.How does one differentiate between the two as both are by definition (including God or gods) are extra terrestrial/ dimensional beings in concept right? Now of course the term demons applies cetain negative or evil attributes but it all boils down to us just ascribing words to a phenomenon we dont understand.
I'll answer this very simply: An "alien", as proposed by those who believe in them, is a physical being from some distant place in the universe.
A demon is a supernatural, or spiritual being that is not subject to physical laws and limitations.
Whether or not you believe in one, the other, or neither, they are not by definition the same thing, at all.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:56 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
First off, the mentions of the existence of angels and demons is all throughout the Bible, without any help from the book of Enoch. Not all demons are necessarily fallen angels, but in Genesis you can read about "the sons of God", which were angels, who defiled themselves by having sex with women on the Earth. Lucifer, himself, is described as once an angel who was cast down to hell.
And Demons can manipulate their appearance, being that they are not subject to physical limitations. The idea that they would present themselves in ways to cause confusion and division is exactly the sort of thing we'd expect of them.
Hollywood likes to present demons in their own cartoonish way, where everything is obvious, and it's outward violence. But Satan and his army of demons tend to operate through deception more than anything else.
And Demons can manipulate their appearance, being that they are not subject to physical limitations. The idea that they would present themselves in ways to cause confusion and division is exactly the sort of thing we'd expect of them.
Hollywood likes to present demons in their own cartoonish way, where everything is obvious, and it's outward violence. But Satan and his army of demons tend to operate through deception more than anything else.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 6:13 am
Posted on 3/28/26 at 7:01 am to ThuperThumpin
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Its actually not a bad question.How does one differentiate between the two as both are by definition (including God or gods) are extra terrestrial/
Being a corporeal, biological being that evolved over a biological-genetic process is a lot different than an incorporeal, non-biological being that was created directly by God a long time ago living in an ethereal plane.
This isn't complicated
Posted on 3/28/26 at 7:13 am to Metaloctopus
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answer this very simply: An "alien", as proposed by those who believe in them, is a physical being from some distant place in the universe. A demon is a supernatural, or spiritual being that is not subject to physical laws and limitations. Whether or not you believe in one, the other, or neither, they are not by definition the same thing, at all.
A demon could just be an alien from a distant place in the universe.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 7:17 am to djsdawg
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A demon could just be an alien from a distant place in the universe.
Ah, going with the "globalism/lawfare" strategy to stretch a term so far it loses any meaning.
A demon could also be a bug, or an emotion, or a technology
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