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re: Vance being brought back to the White House in the last hour
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
I actually agree with you.
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If we don't achieve a clear, unambiguous victory in this deal (some would say "unconditional surrender"), hasn't Iran just been emboldened completely and given the same geopolitical trump card (no pun intended) as a nuke?
Getting out of this quagmire ASAP is the best outcome. Consequences and all.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:44 pm to DiamondDog
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A MOU isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.
I'm very happy to see it being worded this way. Sounds to me moreso like an agreement to extend the ceasefire than anything else. The 3 main points of contention are literally the main 3 points for the war, so, I'm cautiously optimistic now that I've melted for the better part of 2 hours.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If we don't achieve a clear, unambiguous victory in this deal (some would say "unconditional surrender"), hasn't Iran just been emboldened completely and given the same geopolitical trump card (no pun intended) as a nuke?
Well I hold out hope in Trump's ability to frame things as wins, but everything being reported points to one of the greatest US defeats in recent memory.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:45 pm to jbdawgs03
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I am also wondering if it is about The Nimitz arriving in Cuba and Iran...
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Trump should be tarred and feathered if he allows that to happen after all this.
He killed a 80+ year old dictator. He beat the flu to the punch.
He killed a 80+ year old dictator. He beat the flu to the punch.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:46 pm to The Baker
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Getting out of this quagmire ASAP is the best outcome.
I agree with that.
I'm just talking about impact of the deal and the long-term effects of this quagmire
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:47 pm to joshnorris14
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Well I hold out hope in Trump's ability to frame things as wins,
I used "unambiguous" intentionally
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:48 pm to toratiger
So to be clear you believe it’s an existential threat so anything up to and including the liquidation of the Iranian people is an appropriate foreign policy position to eliminate the Iranian regime?
Or are there bounds on what you’re willing to do to accomplish regime change?
Or are there bounds on what you’re willing to do to accomplish regime change?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm just talking about impact of the deal and the long-term effects of this quagmire
I know. I think the benefit is worth the cost of "how bad it looks".
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:49 pm to The Baker
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You've been lockstep with those retards since this whole thing started... now you're going soft?
No I haven't. Me not hating Jews like you do doesn't mean I automatically hate all Iranians. The world isn't as black and white as you like to make it. I don't have inherent hatred for anyone. I want the war brought to a peaceful conclusion like any reasonable person would.
I would say welcome to the "retard" group, but you're already there. Just on the other side of the divide.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:50 pm to joshnorris14
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but everything being reported points to one of the greatest US defeats in recent memory.
Oh go plug your leaking vagina you sniveling little bitch.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:51 pm to hogcard1964
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Really?
Really. Our problems are with the Iranian regime, not the average citizens of Iran. Nuclear weapons would kill many, MANY thousands of innocent people, you frickin homicidal maniac.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:51 pm to hogcard1964
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we have to nuke, now is the time.
Nukes should be a weapon of last resort we are nowhere near that.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:52 pm to AlterEd
Trump gets hate by the same people for tweeting now we have them openly calling for this ruining everything when no details have been released. You’d figured they’d learn especially after the tulsi thing yesterday. That did NOT go as they said.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:52 pm to The Baker
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I think the benefit is worth the cost of "how bad it looks".
Again, I agree.
We can't win this without a ground invasion and that's the last thing I want. We failed at regime change and the SOH issues show Iran has a play.
I was just speculating about the long-term impacts.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:54 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Nukes should be a weapon of last resort we are nowhere near that.
If Iran had one, it’d be the weapon of first choice.
And don’t try telling me differently.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:54 pm to AlterEd
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Me not hating Jews like you do doesn't mean I automatically hate all Iranians.
Yet you're incapable of separating my criticism of Israel from "hating all jews"
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The world isn't as black and white as you like to make it.
pot calling the kettle black, then.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:55 pm to DiamondDog
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If Iran had one, it’d be the weapon of first choice.
And don’t try telling me differently.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I was just speculating about the long-term impacts.
Like a North Korea
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