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re: Vaccine Narrative Collapses as Harvard Study Shows Jab More Dangerous than COVID

Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60918 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:08 pm to
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all bets are off when you start factoring in


When you factor in this isn’t really a vaccine but a treatment AND it’s in response to a man made biological weapon
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5597 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:10 pm to
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The risk is there for anything that evokes immune response.


Yes, but at least we know the results of protein based vaccines because we have decades and decades of track record performances on. Over those 50 years let's say, we have established an acceptable risk level of myocarditis adverse effect. With these mRNA, we only have 18 months of data and that data is extremely alarming, to the tune of 400% greater risk than any traditional vaccine. Wouldn't you agree that 18 months and these early results are alarming this early in the track meet?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42294 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:11 pm to
Crazy4lsu isn’t going to like this.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:13 pm to
so basically, vaxx-land has officially jumped the shark
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17279 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:14 pm to
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per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade =3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities. Given the high prevalence of post-infection immunity, this risk-benefit profile is even less favourable.


Maybe you should have bolded this part.

Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?

If I’m reading this right - even if you get vaccinated as a perfectly healthy 21 yo - you have a 1/30000 chance of going to the hosp. But a 98/30000 of having serious adverse events? Am I wrong about this?

Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4524 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:15 pm to
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As government officials and mainstream media urges the vaccinated to inject a second so-called “bivalent” booster said to be targeting the Omicron variant,


Liars and thieves, as such, they cannot keep their lies straight.
The official line of crap from the MSM is that Omicron was first officially identified in Gauteng, S.A. on Nov. 25th, 2021. Yet,

quote:

Omicron was initially identified in Botswana and South Africa in November 2021—although later virology showed earlier cases had been identified in the Netherlands prior to Nov. of 2021. - Sep 7, 2022


The “vaccine” didn’t prevent infection, re-infection, nor spread of the original virus, though you were lied to and told it was 90-95% effective, even though the vaccine wasn’t available to the general public until Delta had already become the dominant strain so the vaccine and any hopes of actual effectiveness were doomed before you even rolled up your sheepish sleeves.

They knew this! Birx, just admitted it.

It’s essentially been a year since Omicron has become the dominant strain, whom among the sheep believe the virus hasn’t mutated to a more dominant, yet even weaker strain in that timeframe???
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
989 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:17 pm to
The lawsuits are going to be epic.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32244 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:18 pm to
The lack of bleating is resounding.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:19 pm to
The Florida Standard... LMAO Great sauce...
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5597 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:22 pm to
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even though the vaccine wasn’t available to the general public until Delta had already become the dominant strain so the vaccine and any hopes of actual effectiveness were doomed before you even rolled up your sheepish sleeves.


And simultaneously promoted Remdesivir as the in-patient drug of choice during this Delta wave especially for intubated patients where fluids were withheld to avoid lung fluid buildup, and the results were disastrous. But that's a topic for another day.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87389 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:24 pm to
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Maybe you should have bolded this part.

That was not part of any point I was making.

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Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?
Don't know.

Posted by RancherReb
MS
Member since Jan 2021
1052 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:25 pm to
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lad I just got the first round (hospital wouldn’t let me in to see my daughters birth if I didn’t). I refuse to get any boosters


That’s fricked up. Bet you were fit to be tied with that hospital. Guess I would have gotten it as well, if it was for my kids.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16390 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:05 pm to
Drip Drip is starting to pour.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?

Skimming the study earlier, I didn't see this data, which is why the 98x reporting in OP is off.

This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form. It's a non-medical opinion about the ethics of mandatory vaccines of a very specific cohort (18-29 year olds) that has a near 0% chance of serious complications from CV19.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71072 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:34 pm to
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That's why the anti-vax narrative has shifted to potential blood clot issues. Those have potential to be more long term.



Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:34 pm to
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This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form.


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87389 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:47 pm to
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This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form.
Which can be said of just about every study posted here since covid
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38347 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:01 pm to
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“The [troponin] blood test for heart injury with the vaccine myocarditis, is 10 to 100 times higher than the troponin we see with a natural infection,” he continued. “It’s a totally different syndrome.”

I was asking that yesterday in the other thread about myocarditis. Seemed stupid not to be following troponin levels if you are trying compare myocarditis from covid vs that from the vaccine. Oh well.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:11 pm to
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And I would be willing to bet this COVID vax is one of the most utilized vaccines in history, leading to a very high number of myocarditis cases.


This is my take on the whole thing.

More people have probably gotten this infection and/or the vaccine in the last few years than most pathogens in history.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6070 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:43 pm to
I wouldn’t get it even for that. She’d be home in a couple days, I’ll see them there. But thankfully my local hospitals don’t require that bullshite.
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