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re: Vaccine Narrative Collapses as Harvard Study Shows Jab More Dangerous than COVID
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:08 pm to Tomatocantender
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:08 pm to Tomatocantender
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all bets are off when you start factoring in
When you factor in this isn’t really a vaccine but a treatment AND it’s in response to a man made biological weapon
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:10 pm to jonnyanony
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The risk is there for anything that evokes immune response.
Yes, but at least we know the results of protein based vaccines because we have decades and decades of track record performances on. Over those 50 years let's say, we have established an acceptable risk level of myocarditis adverse effect. With these mRNA, we only have 18 months of data and that data is extremely alarming, to the tune of 400% greater risk than any traditional vaccine. Wouldn't you agree that 18 months and these early results are alarming this early in the track meet?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:11 pm to conservativewifeymom
Crazy4lsu isn’t going to like this.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:13 pm to NOLAGT
so basically, vaxx-land has officially jumped the shark
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:14 pm to AlxTgr
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per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade =3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities. Given the high prevalence of post-infection immunity, this risk-benefit profile is even less favourable.
Maybe you should have bolded this part.
Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?
If I’m reading this right - even if you get vaccinated as a perfectly healthy 21 yo - you have a 1/30000 chance of going to the hosp. But a 98/30000 of having serious adverse events? Am I wrong about this?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:15 pm to conservativewifeymom
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As government officials and mainstream media urges the vaccinated to inject a second so-called “bivalent” booster said to be targeting the Omicron variant,
Liars and thieves, as such, they cannot keep their lies straight.
The official line of crap from the MSM is that Omicron was first officially identified in Gauteng, S.A. on Nov. 25th, 2021. Yet,
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Omicron was initially identified in Botswana and South Africa in November 2021—although later virology showed earlier cases had been identified in the Netherlands prior to Nov. of 2021. - Sep 7, 2022
The “vaccine” didn’t prevent infection, re-infection, nor spread of the original virus, though you were lied to and told it was 90-95% effective, even though the vaccine wasn’t available to the general public until Delta had already become the dominant strain so the vaccine and any hopes of actual effectiveness were doomed before you even rolled up your sheepish sleeves.
They knew this! Birx, just admitted it.
It’s essentially been a year since Omicron has become the dominant strain, whom among the sheep believe the virus hasn’t mutated to a more dominant, yet even weaker strain in that timeframe???
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:17 pm to conservativewifeymom
The lawsuits are going to be epic.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:18 pm to Boomdaddy65201
The lack of bleating is resounding.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:19 pm to conservativewifeymom
The Florida Standard... LMAO
Great sauce...
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:22 pm to Boomdaddy65201
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even though the vaccine wasn’t available to the general public until Delta had already become the dominant strain so the vaccine and any hopes of actual effectiveness were doomed before you even rolled up your sheepish sleeves.
And simultaneously promoted Remdesivir as the in-patient drug of choice during this Delta wave especially for intubated patients where fluids were withheld to avoid lung fluid buildup, and the results were disastrous. But that's a topic for another day.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:24 pm to Wednesday
quote:That was not part of any point I was making.
Maybe you should have bolded this part.
quote:Don't know.
Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:25 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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lad I just got the first round (hospital wouldn’t let me in to see my daughters birth if I didn’t). I refuse to get any boosters
That’s fricked up. Bet you were fit to be tied with that hospital. Guess I would have gotten it as well, if it was for my kids.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:05 pm to conservativewifeymom
Drip Drip is starting to pour.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:25 pm to Wednesday
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Plus what are the rates of hospitalization without the vax for 18-28 yo?
Skimming the study earlier, I didn't see this data, which is why the 98x reporting in OP is off.
This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form. It's a non-medical opinion about the ethics of mandatory vaccines of a very specific cohort (18-29 year olds) that has a near 0% chance of serious complications from CV19.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's why the anti-vax narrative has shifted to potential blood clot issues. Those have potential to be more long term.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form.

Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Which can be said of just about every study posted here since covid
This study is not what OP claims it is in any way, shape, or form.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 4:01 pm to idsrdum
quote:I was asking that yesterday in the other thread about myocarditis. Seemed stupid not to be following troponin levels if you are trying compare myocarditis from covid vs that from the vaccine. Oh well.
“The [troponin] blood test for heart injury with the vaccine myocarditis, is 10 to 100 times higher than the troponin we see with a natural infection,” he continued. “It’s a totally different syndrome.”
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:11 pm to Sev09
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And I would be willing to bet this COVID vax is one of the most utilized vaccines in history, leading to a very high number of myocarditis cases.
This is my take on the whole thing.
More people have probably gotten this infection and/or the vaccine in the last few years than most pathogens in history.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:43 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I wouldn’t get it even for that. She’d be home in a couple days, I’ll see them there. But thankfully my local hospitals don’t require that bullshite.
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