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re: Vaccinated being as contagious as non should gut the argument for mandates

Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by SuperDad
Member since Sep 2021
191 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:58 pm to
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Nice. That argument should qualify you for Mensa.

There's no arguing with someone willing to lie.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86488 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:59 pm to
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SuperDad
Dude, you're being dishonest in here, and you should absolutely edit your lie of a title.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125547 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:00 pm to
frick off, hall monitor.
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
1022 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:00 pm to
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There's no arguing with someone willing to lie.


I literally just re-posted my original post.

You can go back and look at the original. It was not edited.

If I edit a post after someone else has added a post it automatically adds the edited date/time. I do not have control of that so I could not have edited that post after you responded to it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86488 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:01 pm to
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frick off, hall monitor.
What's your problem?
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
1022 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:04 pm to
I noticed my original post has "of" when I meant "off."

I would love to go back and edit it but I can't because, for some really weird reason, I've have been accused of editing my posts and have been called a liar.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86488 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Well, you had a point you seemed to think you were going to make. It isn't my responsibility to play the straight man for ya.

If you have something, add it.

It was a question.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60729 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:59 pm to
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Please explain how the percentage of not fully vaccinated cases and hospitalizations are always higher than the % of deaths.
Because the non vaxxed die at a disproportionate rate.

Not all people with hospitalized die.....this isnt a riddle.

Ill break it down for you...you have 100 people in the hospital. 85 non vaxxed, 15 vaxxed...85% of hospitalizations are non vaxxed....that is step one

You have 20 of those people die...of those 20, 19 are non vaxxed....that would make 95% of deaths non vaxxed.

See how it works now?
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4036 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:32 pm to
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I'd love for you to link your statistical data to support your exactly "90%" statement. Seems really, really odd such an exact round number. What hospital do you work at Lib? The girlfriend works the Covid floor in one of the busiest in the state of NC. And oddly enough, she does not even remotely support your statement. But she also refuses to get that bullshite vaccine. You do realize roughly 50% (see what I did there when unsure of the actual % in my statement) of Covid positives aren't actual Covid positives, right......\thread stays open...BITCH


You might need to change your name to FullyCocked after that cock slap
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:12 pm to
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The vaccinated people I know still wear masks inside the majority of the time.


I’m vaccinated and I didn’t wear a mask before the vaccine and certainly won’t wear one now.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6016 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:09 am to
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Because the non vaxxed die at a disproportionate rate.

Not all people with hospitalized die.....this isnt a riddle.

Ill break it down for you...you have 100 people in the hospital. 85 non vaxxed, 15 vaxxed...85% of hospitalizations are non vaxxed....that is step one

You have 20 of those people die...of those 20, 19 are non vaxxed....that would make 95% of deaths non vaxxed.

See how it works now?


But that's not what's happening. A higher percentage of deaths are "fully vaxxed" than the percentage of cases and hospitalizations that are "fully vaxxed".
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125547 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:19 am to
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Hmm, mine comes from the cdc, your "facts" come from some random internet guy who did his internet research.


Your facts come from old data. Get newer data.

LINK

It looks like the protection for the vaccinated comes in the decrease in infection. Once infected, hospitalization and death rates aren’t incredibly different.

There have been over 32,000 breakthrough cases of Covid in vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts. Over 5,000 this past week. 1,001 hospitalizations. That’s a 3.1% hospitalization rate. Unvaccinated rates for hospitalizations has hovered around 4%. There’s been 217 deaths in those 32,000 breakthrough cases. 0.67% mortality rate. That’s pretty similar to CDC estimates prior to vaccinations even being available.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 8:24 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20823 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:22 am to
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ut if the only benefit to being vaccinated is that you are personally less likely to get a bad case of COVID, but you're still just as contagious, what's the argument for forcing someone else to get vaccinated?

Shouldn't that just revert back to "you take what risk you're willing to take and I'll take what risk I'm willing to take"?



Look, you need to get right out of here with your logical take on this...we are discussing Covid, thus there is absolutely NO room for facts and level headed discourse with the left over this. How else can they use it for power and political purposes over the rank and file? Sheesh!
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