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USS Fitzgerald collision
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:41 pm
There is a scathing article at Real Clear Defense about the investigation and the things the Navy did not want to become public. Not surprisingly part of the problem was identified:
The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of the deck, Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock, to avoid communicating with the destroyer’s electronic nerve center — the combat information center, or CIC — while the Fitzgerald tried to cross a shipping superhighway.
It is a long but worthwhile read and a sad statement on what this country has allowed to happen to its military.
The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of the deck, Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock, to avoid communicating with the destroyer’s electronic nerve center — the combat information center, or CIC — while the Fitzgerald tried to cross a shipping superhighway.
It is a long but worthwhile read and a sad statement on what this country has allowed to happen to its military.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:43 pm to SloaneRanger
A woman caused a boat accident?
Shocking.
Shocking.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:45 pm to SloaneRanger
quote:Sounds like a lover’s quarrel
The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of the deck, Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock, to avoid communicating with the destroyer’s electronic nerve center
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:46 pm to SloaneRanger
A woman thinks she knows better than a machine how to navigate a busy thoroughfare.
Sounds like my wife if you have her a commission.
Sounds like my wife if you have her a commission.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:46 pm to SloaneRanger
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This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:53 pm to SloaneRanger
At least she she started a conversation.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:53 pm to SloaneRanger
Before we lay this all on the feet of one junior officer, provide the full story. That ship was a mess and the two senior officers aboard were basically AWOL.
Navy Times
Navy Times
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:59 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
quote:
Before we lay this all on the feet of one junior officer, provide the full story. That ship was a mess and the two senior officers aboard were basically AWOL.
Agreed, the whole thing is worth reading and paints a terrible picture. But that one junior officer pleaded guilty to dereliction of duty. And she wasn't the only woman involved. It is shocking to me how our Navy is allowed to reach this state of readiness.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:08 pm to SloaneRanger
Women drivers, you don’t say
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:11 pm to SloaneRanger
She was definitely responsible for failing to control the ship and, if she mistrusted the info being provided by the CIC, should have probably moved the ship into safer waters or taken other actions. Someone died. She’s responsible, but she’s not the only one.
That said, is there a reason you keep highlighting the two women involved but not the commander or XO, who not only are responsible for the warship at all times but also had a strange aversion to the night shift. That was a rudderless ship.
That said, is there a reason you keep highlighting the two women involved but not the commander or XO, who not only are responsible for the warship at all times but also had a strange aversion to the night shift. That was a rudderless ship.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:19 pm to SloaneRanger
Bitches cant drive....we all know this
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:24 pm to ChexMix
quote:Just wait till they put an Asian woman in charge of navigating the ship. SMH
Bitches cant drive....we all know this
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:26 pm to Sidicous
quote:ship would never get over 3 knots
Just wait till they put an Asian woman in charge of navigating the ship. SMH
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:56 pm to ChexMix
quote:Yet it the ship would still hit immovable objects and 2 moving ones.
quote:
Just wait till they put an Asian woman in charge of navigating the ship. SMH
ship would never get over 3 knots
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:49 am to SloaneRanger
The whole thing didn't make sense but to find out a freaking junior grade kid was in charge.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:44 am to SloaneRanger
quote:
.....on what piece of shite jug eared Hussein Obama did to our military.
I fixed your spelling mistake in the last sentence.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:08 am to bigblake
quote:There are several articles. IDK which specific one theOP is referring to as each is similar . . . and disgusting
Link?
quote:
The ghost in the Fitz’s machine: why a doomed warship’s crew never saw the vessel that hit it
By: Geoff Ziezulewicz
10 hours ago
.....
Fort and his team of investigators walked to the destroyer’s electronic nerve center, the combat information center everyone calls the “CIC.”
It hadn’t taken a direct hit from the bow of the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal, but it was trashed nonetheless and smelled like urine.
He found a pee bottle that had tipped and spilled behind a large-screen display. Fort’s eyes started to take over for his nose, and he took it all in.
“There was debris everywhere,” Fort said under oath. “Food debris, food waste, uneaten food, half-eaten food, personal gear in the form of books, workout gear, workout bands, kettlebells, weightlifting equipment, the status boards had graffiti on them.”
“I’d never seen a CIC like that in my entire time in the Navy,” the surface warfare officer of more than 25 years recollected.
The more Fort looked, the worse it got: broken sensors that were reported for repairs but never fixed.....
......
CIC watchstanders couldn’t use their remote control to guide it because it also was broken.
A dead radar control button had been “covered by a piece of masking tape,” but Fort’s investigators couldn’t locate a casualty report chronicling the malfunction.
A work order had been generated to order, install and test new control buttons.
That was 194 days before the collision, Fort found.
And that long delay was far from unusual on board the Fitz.
Fort’s investigators interviewed a watchstander who told them that a SPA-25G radar console had been broken for at least four months before the collision.
Then there was the ship’s Voyage Management System.
Used to navigate the destroyer without relying on paper charts, the Fitz’s VMS was so freighted with problems that technicians cannibalized the set in the skipper’s quarters for parts to keep the system running.
But the Fitz’s VMS had started acting up while the destroyer was in dry dock in 2016 and early 2017, Fort found. The bridge unit would lock up and take several minutes to reset.
Technicians were supposed to peek at it in April of 2017 but “that visit was cancelled due to FTZ’s schedule change requiring the ship to be underway,” Fort wrote.
A “Bright Bridge” console also was listed as operational before the ACX Crystal accident.
But like the VMS, one console had been cannibalized for parts to fix another console and no casualty report was found for any of that, the report states.
A work order repair number, however, had been generated — 135 days before the collision, Fort found.
LINK
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:42 am to NC_Tigah
Yet the buffoons here keep harping on the fact that a Lieutenant Junior Grade wrecked the ship...
The CIC she “didn’t trust” seemed like a hell hole and her commander thought he was on a Disney Cruise.
The CIC she “didn’t trust” seemed like a hell hole and her commander thought he was on a Disney Cruise.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:45 am to BornAndRaised_LA
might be because a bunch of women were prancing around like Vegas showgirls
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