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Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1619 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:03 pm to
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. That concerns me more then anything else
Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about, or have the intelligence to cipher a narrative being spun right in front of your face.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
21910 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:04 pm to
Thanks for straight ing that out for us.
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1619 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:07 pm to
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straightening
FTFY
Glad I could educate you on something today.
Perhaps you've learned something today about media outlets spinning narratives and how to easily identify them.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
21910 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:08 pm to
Sorry you are a spelling and English major on a chat site. Do you understand this,
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31103 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:10 pm to
First, a couple of words about CVN 72. The situation is being overblown and sensationalized for politics, period. That doesn't mean there aren't conditions that are morale busters. It is the longest period at sea since Vietnam. The high wartime OPTEMPO at the end of a very long period at sea sucks. The George Washington is the relief carrier, and it is coming. I guarantee everyone on that ship is ready to stand on dry ground for a while.

Part of the issue is we don't have enough ships for the missions we try to run. In general, you need three ships for every one you have out on patrol. Either build more ships or adjust the mission.

The food "issues" are almost certainly overblown. Most people bitch about work to their spouses or parents (if they are young and don't have a spouse). Some of the food complaints probably come in when River City is lifted and the carrier gets replenished the next day but River City doesn't get lifted again for a couple of weeks so people at home don't know the issue was fixed less than 24hrs later. The people bitching might be stuck eating midrats which are never as good as the "normal" meals.

The bottom line is the Lincoln crew is being pushed farther than you would want to push a crew in the modern military involved in a limited engagement, but it does happen.


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Come on.

Just say you hate him. No need to be disingenuous about him.

He served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was infantry, then airborne. He was awarded a Bronze Star. He was promoted to major.

He’s a Princeton and Harvard graduate. He’s worked on Wall Street. He’s worked in news and media.



As to Hegseth. The SECDEF is a civilian position to military service is not required though it can be helpful. In general, Hegseth has an impressive CV but without a high depth in any area. That alone bothers me but someone with a wide base and quality education are often quick studies.

His military career is more concerning. It may look impressive to a civilian but it has some huge red flags to a former officer. Hegseth entered the military as an 11A (infantry officer) just like I did so I know the career path well.

The big red flag is Hegseth never got a company command. This is the Army telling the world you are not command material. If you are in a particularly talented O3 promotion cycle the worst of the best would get a AS3 slot. People shifted over to the "imaginary" S shops are being told you are a staffer, not a leader. Not getting a company command is a dagger in the heart of a young 11A. This often creates what we called a frustrated commander. The staffer who thinks they couldda been a contender. It usually isn't a problem because they are just a PITA for company comanders as they languish in some lower-tier S shop you don't really care about. It becomes an issue when that frustrated commander becomes the second in command of the entire military and the highest-ranking official with any military experience. This is the only type of person that would pull the entire military's senior officers and NCOs off their jobs and bring them to the principal's office for a dress-down. He is acting just like new 11A O3 that just showed up to his company. I know I was there and I also know I would have done things differently later in life.

I see this frustrated commander syndrome as being part of the mess we are in now; it's a commander trying to prove what he never got a chance to when he was ~25yo. Trump ask him about the Iran plan and coming off his high in Venezuela, Hegseth salutes, says "yes sir, no sir, three bags full we we have the mission accomplished by COB Zulu next Friday. So we are here. There are a number of O7s and above sitting on a beach somewhere because they were more realistic about certain plans likely including Iran.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13106 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:11 pm to
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The disconnect here is that you have no frame of reference for what living onboard a deployed carrier at sea is like. You also have no clue about how carrier operations are conducted.


I follow. You have that frame of reference. So 200+ days without port… should they have rotated them earlier?
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 6:11 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69582 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:13 pm to
It’s shameful. They don’t have enough fresh water, and the vessel is in disrepair. The deployment has been far longer than anyone anticipated.

Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1619 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
My brother in Christ, clearly not the case, was just helping you out, seemed you were struggling with the English language.

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21910 posts

For someone who spends their life on this message board, one would stand to reason you'd be a bit more educated on news, spelling, media, and other material that is usually associated with it.

my bad.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3969 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:16 pm to
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I dont know how else to say this is plain stupidity and a factory of lies.


Then why is the Washington coming to replace them?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13106 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:17 pm to
Very informative. Thanks
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6141 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Then why is the Washington coming to replace them?


Because they are do for replacement?
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3969 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:23 pm to
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Bunch of lib TDS propaganda… and anyone actually complaining is a soft as frick bitch who shouldn’t even be in the military. You sign up for the military, you’re on a fricking boat and not even seeing combat, and you’re crying to the media etc.? frick off and get the frick out of this country permanently. Pussy.


Did you serve?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11771 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:26 pm to
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"I've heard pretty POSITIVE feedback about the conditions there!"

"The work is repetitive. We understand they're under mental stress and have nothing but sympathy and respect for the stress inherent to the operation." ????

Their narrative just fell flat.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117047 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:30 pm to
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We sent a dude up to the flight deck for monkey watch coming past Gibraltar one time. We made sure he was dressed properly, with the right monkey-fighting equipment and off he went.


Lololololololol
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30923 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:34 pm to
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I follow. You have that frame of reference. So 200+ days without port… should they have rotated them earlier?

Yes, they're overdue to be relieved. But, deployments get extended sometimes. The reports of terrible conditions onboard are overblown. Tales of low morale are also exaggerated. This is a narrative being pushed, not a real picture of what it's like onboard the Lincoln.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3969 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:36 pm to
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Because they are do for replacement?


‘do’

Come on man - that’s not even an autocorrect mistake.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6141 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:45 pm to
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Come on man - that’s not even an autocorrect mistake.


You are correct. Should have typed “due”. Does that change the point of the post?
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3969 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:50 pm to
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You are correct. Should have typed “due”. Does that change the point of the post


Yes, the Washington replacement group doesn’t seem planned - it seems reactive to this bad story and bad planning.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6141 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:01 pm to
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Yes, the Washington replacement group doesn’t seem planned - it seems reactive to this bad story and bad planning.


Link? How long has the Washington been at port? They usually only stay at port for less than a few weeks.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30923 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:21 pm to
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Yes, the Washington replacement group doesn’t seem planned - it seems reactive to this bad story and bad planning.

What, you think they just got the call to replace the Lincoln, like a UFC fighter stepping in on short notice?
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