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re: Used Guns you want to sell, would you be ok with a law requiring you to sell it to....
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:37 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:37 pm to LSUconvert
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Agreed, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as "more=bad" at any given point. We can implement more strict laws while not increasing bloat.
Ehh it's theoretically possible and I'd be open to hearing ideas... but the government does not have a good track record.
Generally the less government intervenes, no matter how good the intent, the better people are.
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Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:39 pm to AUstar
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The latest shooter in Texas actually failed his background check and then bought one from a dude off the street.
exactly, this is what prompted post / questions....
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:40 pm to LSUconvert
No nuance is needed. Your registry will require tons of more gov workers. You know that.
What's wrong with you progs?
What's wrong with you progs?
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:44 pm to LSUconvert
Yes
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:46 pm to roadGator
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How is that fair to a law abiding citizen?
is it fair you have to go through security screening to board an airplane after 911?
I feel better knowing they are trying to avoid another 911 happening again...it's nearly 20 years, hard to believe...I don't think I gave up any rights to get on that plane...
can we avoid nut jobs going off on innocent civilians?
When I go to a movie theater, I think about that massacre from a few years ago....
When people go a Walmart now, they might think about it...
I drop my kids off to school, I think about it..."Lord don't let this madness happen here"
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Guns are a small part of a much bigger problem...
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:48 pm to Tesla
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A) why would you sell your guns?
Because you're tired of the one you have and desire another one?
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:48 pm to LSUconvert
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That doesn't stop us for putting rules in place. Do you see how insane that is?
I do - but there’s a balance. You don’t put rules in place that have no impact. Rules/laws are meant to drive change in behavior.
I have not seen where a registration would have changed any behavior/prevented any of the recent shootings. The trade off is it creates a list of targets for the next step of gun confiscation.
That tradeoff is a net loss. Not gain.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:49 pm to ApexTiger
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When I go to a movie theater, I think about that massacre from a few years ago....
There's no way I want you near 2A then.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:55 pm to Strannix
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If you are clueless as to how the system works now how can you be taken seriously in a debate or proposing changes?
I think most people do not know how the system works....if you ask the average american about gun laws in their state, permits, licensing, conceal laws, background checks and if there is a registry, you might be surprised they don't know, our political leaders often do not know...
you have to be fully immersed in it to know...I am not..
I don't own a gun
but the more these shootings happen, the more likely I will decide buy one...
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:02 pm to ApexTiger
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what are other negatives of handling gun sales/ purchases of used guns this way?
You create red tape and cost for legal firearm owners and don’t actually stop any crime
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:03 pm to Eighteen
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You create red tape and cost for legal firearm owners and don’t actually stop any crime
fair enough, can't argue against it...
so what do we do then, nothing?
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:21 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Sounds like having to go to a doc to get a prescription. Seems to be working well keeping drugs off the street, eh?
If followed, wouldn't this eliminate the issue "there are no background checks conducted in private sales"
quote:If you need this explained to you, you’re going to need more help you’re likely to get here.
Assuming the law would provide a fair value, no hassle, "here is your money" what would be the negative? What rights have been surrendered?
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the seller is eager to register the fire arm in the buyers name...
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:24 pm to ApexTiger
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Ok, if we're doing back ground checks but we're not taking note of what that person is buying? how is that possible? How do we know one way or other?
what is the biggest objection to it? 8 states have banned a gun registry
we're going to have to do something....
the culture of America is broken...
I understand people kill people, but the loons need to be filtered and identified.
we can't watch the news like it's fiction, like a movie because we don't know any of the victims...
we're growing numb to it...that's not a good place to be
Kindly go frick yourself.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:25 pm to ApexTiger
You could always just force the sale to go through an ffl dealer to conduct the sale. Government should cover the cost to the dealer.
Many people do this already in some states.
Many people do this already in some states.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:33 pm to Taxing Authority
More damage comes from free speech than gun violence. are You ready to give up the 1st amendment? How much of it do you want to give up?
Do you pay the lottery? Do you expect to win? Your odds are better to win the lottery than your child is killed by a mass murderer at school, and by the way, neither one is going to happen to you.
Violence and gun violence is trending down each decade. You don’t hear that from the media because it doesn’t fit the narrative but it’s true. The media had an agenda to disarm the public but it’s not in anyone’s best interest.
So what should we do? Keep guns out of mentally unstable people and enforce the gun laws we currently have.
Do you pay the lottery? Do you expect to win? Your odds are better to win the lottery than your child is killed by a mass murderer at school, and by the way, neither one is going to happen to you.
Violence and gun violence is trending down each decade. You don’t hear that from the media because it doesn’t fit the narrative but it’s true. The media had an agenda to disarm the public but it’s not in anyone’s best interest.
So what should we do? Keep guns out of mentally unstable people and enforce the gun laws we currently have.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:34 pm to ApexTiger
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can you explain this?
The FBI did a study where they traced firearms used in homicides from the date originally purchased to criminal use.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:37 pm to ApexTiger
quote:No they aren't. My personal record for expired inspection is 39 months.
but vehicles are register, inspected annually and insured...
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:39 pm to ApexTiger
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I don't own a gun
I never would have guessed
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:40 pm to ApexTiger
Hell no. To hell with the gov and the gunowners database they are trying to build.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:40 pm to roadGator
quote:Well you own a gun. You must be either guilt of something or planning a mass murder. Duh.
Why should I be hassled for passing a gun along to my child?
Even you have no ill intentions, the gun's magic powers might convert you anytime into a cold blooded killer. You just never know.
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