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re: USA vs China: To Sink a Carrier

Posted on 7/30/22 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 3:28 pm to
So, this guy posits four US ships (a carrier and three support ships) against everything China can throw into the conflict, with the US using no other assets and bringing nothing else forward? In that scenario, China wins?

OK
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22185 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 3:39 pm to
Yeah im having a hard time with that also. We would certainly fire back and not just sit on our thumbs and wait to be eliminated.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39638 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 3:42 pm to
Trump would tell Xi that he can kiss that Three Gorges Damn goodbye. And Xi would not risk it because OMB.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 4:11 pm to
I think the point is, they could sink, or damage one of our carriers in the hypothetical. That video is from a couple years ago and did not take the new hypersonic weapons into account.


quote:

The DF-17 missile with a hypersonic glide vehicle was first publicly revealed in 2019. This weapon was specially designed to penetrate sophisticated air defense systems


Military today

I have to wonder why all the bluster from China, over this?

quote:

#Latest China's remarks on countering #Pelosi's possible visit to #Taiwan shows highest level of warning. All options, including military ones, are already on the table. It's crucial to accurately understand China's remarks and avoid misunderstandings, experts.


China Government Official

With all this talking shite and moving serious assets around, including our Carrier battle group, there has got to be more to this than some concern over an old, drunk, 82-year-old POS, House Speaker going over to visit.

All things considered; something does not add up.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15802 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:06 pm to
Everyone is forgetting,that in our Carrier groups, we have the most technological advances Subs in the world. China's navy ships would be taken out fast. The Carrier groups, besides have Destroyers, also have CG's which normally lead in front of the carrier. I'm a Plankowner of CG-73 USS Port Royal and my ship could fight land, other ships, planes and subs at the same time. The United States Navy is by far the most potent Navy this world has ever seen.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37494 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:20 pm to
I would worry about what's under the water.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23982 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

So, this guy posits four US ships (a carrier and three support ships) against everything China can throw into the conflict, with the US using no other assets and bringing nothing else forward?

Not even any submarines.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30227 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:27 pm to
It's always amusing when people on here try to argue that aircraft carriers are obsolete. They're not by any stretch of the imagination. Reports of their death are greatly exaggerated.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23982 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Of course this is the worst outcome possible for the foible-prone US. And to think we sat on our asses all these years and let three countries, Iran, China and Russia develop an undefeatable array of weapons just shows what "dumbasses" we are over here. Everybody, bend over and kiss your "asses" goodbye. It's over!

And given he was there for four years as this happened, I blame Trump for 75% of this.

Sorry to bump but you guys didn't get it at all. I guess because I mentioned Trump. Nobody gonna beat the US. Go Merica! Iran, give me a break. But we and Israel are gonna have to get Iran before they get too many ideas from this type of shat.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25210 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:29 pm to
If China and the USA go to war, it will be the end of the world as we know it....the global economic system will crash so hard, that it will maybe never recover.

The fight for food, water, medical supplies, etc. will ensue....it will be biblical.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:33 pm to
Sounds exciting.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23982 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

If China and the USA go to war, it will be the end of the world as we know it....the global economic system will crash so hard, that it will maybe never recover.

China is going to go to war with some country. A country we like. So get that into your head. It's going to happen. The old days are gone. China has to do it soon though. Because long term, things look grim for China.

Why do you think we are letting Ukraine fight our proxy war with Russia. The US is going to have to defeat these countries.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13269 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:51 pm to
Phalanx guns are effective, but IIRC they can only do 3 minutes of continuous firing before their barrels melt.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

although, I suspect a number of the escorts ships would go down)


Well it’s a good thing we have 3 other aircraft carriers and their escorts in Japanese water at this very moment. So in other words those ships of china’s in Japanese waters would never arrive for support. On top of having military bases in South Korea, Japan, and if it hasn’t tipped over Guam. On top of that we have military presence in Thailand, Philippines, and Singapore.


It’s very easy to look up. The writer of the article did zero research
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40913 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

With all this talking shite and moving serious assets around, including our Carrier battle group, there has got to be more to this than some concern over an old, drunk, 82-year-old POS, House Speaker going over to visit.

All things considered; something does not add up.



I'm sure it couldn't be a clumsy, ham-handed effort to make ol' Nance look like she's not bought and paid for by the ChiComs. "Look everyone! She just couldn't be on the take! The Chinese threatened to kill her!"

Marty McFly's scheme to get his father, George, look like a hero was less obvious than this scam.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35676 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Hostilities will escalate to the point where China will


make wee-wee in your coke.

So solly
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23982 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

All things considered; something does not add up.


If you'd spend some time away from here and on other sites, you'd know the Chinese are going to invade Taiwan sooner than you'd like.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35676 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Yeah im having a hard time with that also. We would certainly fire back and not just sit on our thumbs and wait to be eliminated.




Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15802 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Phalanx guns are effective, but IIRC they can only do 3 minutes of continuous firing before their barrels melt.


US Navy ships also have other self defenses on board. I know of 1 item that was already being implemented and tested in the 90's but I've never once seen it mentioned nor admitted too but the Seawhiz is old school compared to what I've seen.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55960 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:59 pm to



The St. George militia needs one
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