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re: U.S. intelligence community: COVID-19 'not man-made or genetically modified'

Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:18 pm to
Ok now I’m 100% convinced it was
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:19 pm to
So, it starts right outside a Wuhan viral lab studying Coronaviruses and supposedly from a bat that’s not from the region or eaten in their wet markets....Hmmm...
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:27 pm to
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The Office of the Director of National Intelligence said Thursday that the U.S. intelligence community has concluded that the COVID-19 virus was “not man-made or genetically modified” in China.


Well, now that they have made this trustworthy declaration you can rest assured that COVID-19 was 100% a man-made, genetically modified virus.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16725 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:28 pm to
Scientists have said it’s not manmade. We have heard of “gain of function” research being conducted on Coronavirus.

My guess is that not considered “generic modification “. If that’s the case, they are misleading. Or “gain of function” is genetic and they are downright lying.

I mean there’s enough circumstantial evidence to say it likely escaped from that Wuhan lab. Even employees have been on record with that theory.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:34 pm to
Are these the same folks that were in Obama’s IC while Obama’s NIH was sending $3.7 million to Wuhan?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:36 pm to
It doesn’t have to be man made or genetically modified for the Chinese to be at fault for the impacts.

Letting it out of a poorly run facility handling specimens it was not capable of containing, and then lying about it is no better.

frick China is still the result.

Why the downvotes for news that it wasn’t specifically created in a lab? Who honestly thought it was created and released on purpose other than Qtards? When this is all over, China will be the biggest loser. Their leadership plays the long game, and this situation does not improve their credibility in any way. Every measure of support they have provided in the aftermath has been a disaster as well, like all of the defective tests they pumped into Europe. Nah, this weakens China, especially in SE Asian relations. They lost control of it, and lied about it, for which they should be punished. But they didn’t manufacture the virus and release it into their own population.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:36 pm to
Pardon me if I no longer believe anything coming from the Intel agencies of the USA.

Gave Bush bad advice WRT WMD in Iraq.

Ran a Police State operation against POTUS candidate and a POTUS.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
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I mean there’s enough circumstantial evidence to say it likely escaped from that Wuhan lab. Even employees have been on record with that theory.





Saying it wasn’t synthesized in a lab and occurs in nature is not the same as saying that the outbreak did not originate from the Wuhan facility. That’s a false dichotomy that seems to be the norm here regarding the virus.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
Yeah. I agree with you on this. It doesn’t answer the questions we want answers to.
Posted by RichardS
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:42 pm to
17 Intelligence agencies?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16725 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:42 pm to
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That’s a false dichotomy that seems to be the norm here regarding the virus.


Yeah. We also have to understand that before foreign policy can take formal position, they have to have evidence to back it up.

There’s a separate thread that Trump directed spies to confirm the origin. That may be what they are doing - getting proof before dropping the hammer.

But this article runs counter.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:43 pm to



Brennan is an intel consultant now and Brennan has thunk it over really really good.

Yup. Nothing to see here.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:53 pm to
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It doesn’t have to be man made or genetically modified for the Chinese to be at fault for the impacts.

Letting it out of a poorly run facility handling specimens it was not capable of containing, and then lying about it is no better.

frick China is still the result.

Why the downvotes for news that it wasn’t specifically created in a lab? Who honestly thought it was created and released on purpose other than Qtards? When this is all over, China will be the biggest loser. Their leadership plays the long game, and this situation does not improve their credibility in any way. Every measure of support they have provided in the aftermath has been a disaster as well, like all of the defective tests they pumped into Europe. Nah, this weakens China, especially in SE Asian relations. They lost control of it, and lied about it, for which they should be punished. But they didn’t manufacture the virus and release it into their own population.


You are 100% correct. The fact that basically every single scientist and government that has taken a seriously look at that theory has called it bullshite, so of course they are all Deep Staters and there's a Bill Gates conspiracy theory behind it.

That conclusion doesn't preclude the idea - perhaps even likelihood - that sloppy lab protocol was the start. Or that the Chinese government fricked up ten ways to Sunday.

No, all scientists are being funded by the Rothchilds who are backing the Chinese government. That's definitely the answer.
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:03 pm to
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Who honestly thought it was created and released on purpose



Bio weapons have been used throughout history Nostradumas.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5054 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:29 pm to
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The Office of the Director of National Intelligence said Thursday that the U.S. intelligence community has concluded that the COVID-19 virus was “not man-made or genetically modified” in China.


That is not what my intelligence sources inside China are telling me.

Seriously, the lab had a group that specialized in the study of bat virus and wrote an article about modifying a coronavirus specifically from a horseshoe bat and testing it in human lung tissue in 2015. I think this may be one of the things the NIH grant sponsored. If research progressed on a natural path, this was the first of at least several modifications to the same base horseshoe bat virus. Samples of the original and each modification would then be stored in the lab. It then becomes only a question of which one got out. Since the 2015 paper stated a chimera was created using a horseshoe bat coronavirus and a mouse coronavirus virus, it would be logical to do a DNA comparison between VoVid-19 and other viruses to see if there are matching segments. I don't give a frick what intelligence "thinks", I want some actual science. There was a Nobel recipient virologist in France that had some things to say last week.

This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8328 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:53 pm to
I’m pretty sure this has been fairly well established for awhile. The best bet is that it was a naturally occurring virus that the Wuhan lab collected from some bat in a cave before mishandling the sample and accidentally letting it out.


That’s certainly less scandalous than a genetically created virus, but it’s still FAR from letting China off the hook
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:57 pm to
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The best bet is that it was a naturally occurring virus that the Wuhan lab collected from some bat in a cave before mishandling the sample and accidentally letting it out.


I’ll one up you. It was likely being experimented on to see if they could make it more contagious under a grant provided by the NIH.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 5:10 pm to
Mutations problematic for vaccines

The 16:04 section is why this is scary and may very well be what they were engineering.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 5:12 pm
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