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re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.

Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39730 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

This is where authoritarianism comes from on the Left.


FIFY

Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:47 pm to
One thing that is true that could easily happen is we could get right wing authoritarianism precisely because of the left. If one side decides that it's going to completely abandon all the structures of the government and basically let judges run a coup then the other side is going to have to start arresting people and probably disappearing them. A great example of this is Pinochet. The left caused him and he was necessary
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Only if they think they will flee.

So you were wrong before when you said, "Her ruling says they cannot do anything without a warrant." LINK?

BTW, these sweeps happened under the Biden administration.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10434 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:48 pm to
So, judges no longer enforcing any laws?

Yes, I know it's selective, but one day they may run out of any laws they support.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Now illegal immigrants have more rights than you.


What you don't understand is that he is fine with this...

As long as the illegals have more rights than YOU, not HIM.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7636 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:52 pm to
She banned BP not ICE. They are separate federal agencies. Most ICE arrests have warrants. Requiring BP to have warrants is like making local cops need warrants to arrest someone for drunk driving.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:54 pm to
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NO! This is where lawlessness comes from the left.
Really? You think this is leftism...?

quote:

This squishy shite is why we’re never going to be able to have a country again. You realize what we’re up against? This whole weak federal government shite isn’t going to work against this enemy. These are not people operating in good faith. They want you dead, they want me dead, they never stop until they have full control and power. What we do isn’t going to make them any more or less inclined unless there is no way for them to ever get their hands on anything again.

You’re not getting that with principled apple pie small government bullshite. Sorry, hate to burst your fantasy land, but that isn’t happening. Reliever wins is going to be the side that isn’t afraid to stand up, take full control, and actually root them all out once and for all,

LINK

You might then want to accuse YouAreAllPathetic of being a leftist, he wrote it, I just responded to it. Personally, I would describe that sentiment as right-wing, nationalist authoritarianism.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Really? You think this is leftism...?
Support of lawlessness is without question leftist. Period.

If you don't realize that, you are Hank Johnson's useful idiot.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:02 pm to
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Support of lawlessness

wtf are you talking about? Did you not read YouAreAllPathetic's post?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:02 pm to
Re:
quote:

This squishy shite is why we’re never going to be able to have a country again

My preference is that you attribute my quotes to me, and those of others to them.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Did you not read YouAreAllPathetic's post?
The one you intimated was mine?

My response was to you, not a third party once removed who may or may not have a point.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57100 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:20 pm to
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So you were wrong before when you said, "Her ruling says they cannot do anything without a warrant."




Big win for you. Does her ruling follow federal law? I’m more interested in that than gotchas on the internet.


Do you know what the definition of flee usually is in federal law? Of course you don’t. You just don’t like Trump.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22739 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:30 pm to
Trump gonna suspend writ of habeas corpus.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
13899 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:31 pm to
Maybe they should just drop off several hundred on the street where she lives.
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:31 pm to
You rang, bitch tits?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

My preference is that you attribute my quotes to me, and those of others to them.

Jesus.

That was the full text from YouAreAllPathetic's post that I was saying was the way we get authoritarianism from the Right. That you said, "NO!" to and said it was from the Left. You probably thought I was referring back to the OP, but I was not.

Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:38 pm to LINK ] YouAreAllPathetic

So, my preference is that you make sure of what I'm actually replying to before replying to my post.
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:33 pm to
That’s exactly where we’re headed. I hate being right about this, but that’s the outcome if they don’t stop this now… which we all know they won’t. You don’t deal with rabid animals by giving them a hug or laughing at the hypocrisy of it all.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12412 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:36 pm to
Good luck
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:38 pm to
Sounds like you’re just a little too riled up.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

You just don’t like Trump.

The sweeps occurred under Biden. And it looks like the feds could have exceeded their authority.

Case No.: 1:25-cv-00246 JLT CD

Apparently the judge thought that these federal agents were not abiding by the law as you stated they should - and ruled accordingly. Classes for both suspicionless stop as well as warrentless arrest are addressed.

Do you think it's out of the question that federal field agents could exceed their authority? I believe it's likely given my experience.

YouAreAllPathetic is apparently onboard with extra-judicial federal actions to remove these people. Personally, I believe that would put citizens' rights in jeopardy.

That's the gist of my point ITT.
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