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re: US Dept of Justice now says you have to have a FFL to sell a gun “for profit”
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:06 pm to RollTide71
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:06 pm to RollTide71
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I don't think you know much at all.
I know that you support a dude who used the DOJ to attack the Second Amendment, while pretending you're outraged about a different dude using the DOJ to attack the Second Amendment.
Most of the other Fudds are smart enough to go into hiding on this one. Not you. You're a true believer.
quote:
plain words would do just fine (prefatory)
Sorry for using my fancy book words. Is your brain short circulating?
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You'd like that. Democrat/liberal sky screamers always want to silence the other side. Next, you'll be calling me racist.
Most of the other Fudds are smart enough to go into hiding on this one. Not you.
quote:You'd have to get one, before it could short circuit.
Is your brain short circulating?
quote:It's a binary choice between biden and Trump. Since are faulting me for supporting and voting for Trump, the only conclusion to be reached is that you are supporting and voting for biden (otherwise you'd STFU). We have all the evidence that is needed to prove you to be a democrat.
I know that you support a dude who used the DOJ to attack the Second Amendment,
That my friend is what is called "Check Mate". Enjoy your night.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:29 pm to RollTide71
quote:
You'd like that.
I saw that. You haven't bothered to deny it.
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It's a binary choice between biden and Trump.
We don't all hate George Washington, commie.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Planning to vote for him are ya? Not sure he's gonna be on the ballot in my state.
We don't all hate George Washington,
quote:How ya enjoying that checkmate? At least you got mated, right?
You haven't bothered to deny it.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:36 pm to RollTide71
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Planning to vote for him are ya? Not sure he's gonna be on the ballot in my state.
I think he was a pretty smart dude who we can still learn from.
Sorry you hate him, commie.
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You haven't bothered to deny it.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:39 pm to BearCrocs
Here we go with the mythical "internet gun purchase and gun show loophole." 
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:42 pm to ThoseGuys
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I use to sell firearms for a large company. We had an employee we had to fire because when he found a customer who wanted a gun but didn't want to run a background he would buy the gun himself off the clock and turn around and sell to them for profit (considering he got an employee discount and sold it for more than we were, he got a really nice profit each time). He was busted after a lengthy investigation from corporate.
This is an illegal straw sale.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:44 pm to BearCrocs
And just like that, 1% of gun crimes are stopped. Except most of those will just acquire via other means so really basically none.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:10 pm to ThoseGuys
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sold it for more than we were,
Here is how he will be found guilty under the proposed rule. If he had only sold it for the same (or less) then he could have argued replacement cost negates profit since he knew he would be fired and lose his discount.
Still obviously broke straw purchase just on the face. And we don’t know ALL the facts. There could be any number of additional charges based on what transpired.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You supported this.
so i supported not being able to sell guns?
you are a lying POS as always CUCK
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why hasn't this victory already happened? FFL regs like this have been on the books for a long time.
I remember a time when you at least presented yourself in a manner commensurate with the intelligence you claimed to possess.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:43 pm to ThoseGuys
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I'm positive he is a very rare case but the textbook of who this law is likely designed for.
..........
Are you retarded?
That scenario wasn't a "corporate investigation" scenario. That's a fired on the spot and reported for felonies scenario.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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A gun?
I will bet you that the proposed rule requires more than one sale for profit.
JSTFU Mr. Know it all for once on something you do not know anything about. Go shoot your water gun to hydrate your hydrangeas.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:46 pm to The Maj
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Every agency pretty much has rule making power that Congress has ceded to that agency... Most are WAY outside of their boundaries and need to be reeled back in...
I’ve always said that unelected bureaucrats are far more dangerous than the politicians.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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FFL regs like this have been on the books for a long time.
thanks for bringing this up .
FFL... federal firearms licensees.
explain to me how it's not an infringement to make folks subject to arbitrary govt payments to acquire licenses and insane regulations, mountains of paperwork, and the tyranny of the ATF to keep those licenses ... just so they can resell guns?
I'm not even necessarily saying I disagree with the concept. regardless, how is it not a blatant violation of the constitution?
what's stopping the govt from making the licenses and regulations more costly putting more and more FFLs under? what happens when no one can afford to run a gun shop? is it an infringement then? nahh.. Just the govt protecting you cuz you're too dumb to do it yourself.
mark my words. it won't be drastic because that's what causes revolutions. it won't be door to door confiscations.
it will be an culture war painting guns as evil liable to jump up and go off shooting people. it will be taxing ammo and guns at an ever increasing rate. it will be forcing insurance on gun owners. it will be more and more red flag laws. it will be banning imported ammo. it will be the allowance of manufacturers to be sued. it will be tracking purchases. it will be pressuring financiers to outright block purchases.
it will be EVERY SINGLE THING THEY CAN THINK OF TO DISSUADE OR PREVENT YOU from being able to protect yourself.
is it benevolence? or malice?
can it even be benevolent if it's the illegal incremental, removal of a nationally enshrined and universal God given right?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:39 am to tgerb8
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explain to me how it's not an infringement to make folks subject to arbitrary govt payments to acquire licenses and insane regulations, mountains of paperwork, and the tyranny of the ATF to keep those licenses ... just so they can resell guns?
I'm not a proponent of the FFL scheme, so I can't.
Again, this is a classic scenario where I explain what the law is, not what I want the law to be.
Take what you quoted of me directly
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FFL regs like this have been on the books for a long time
That is in no way saying I support the fact that they have existed for a long time. It's just stating the reality of the situation.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:41 am to X123F45
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I remember a time when you at least presented yourself in a manner commensurate with the intelligence you claimed to possess.
I'd love to hear you explain how what you quoted did not within the specific context of that digression, in response to a clever legal argument re: takings.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, this is a classic scenario where I explain what the law is, not what I want the law to be.
No, that’s just an excuse you use.
Your “explaining” always has a defense of the government in it. This is evident by the fact that when we point out how a law will be abused you always respond with “nuh uh, you’re just a paranoid MAGA extremist”.
Trying to convince everyone that the government won’t abuse some power or law is a classic tactic of the left.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'd love to hear you explain how what you quoted did not within the specific context of that digression
Youre desperately trying to prove this EO does nothing to "increase" gun control . Youre wrong, period.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:39 am to Fat Bastard
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Fat FuddTard
You supported the use of DOJ to attack the Second Amendment.
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