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re: US demands from Venezuela to sever economic ties with Iran, Cuba, China, Russia — TV

Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:35 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:35 am to
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Caracas is required to agree to "exclusive cooperation with the United States in the field of oil production," ABC News reported.
I guess the Saudis got tired of our shite, so now we have to make Venezuela our slave in resuscitating the Petro Dollar.

I guess these are the things we have to do as long as we allow ourselves to be governed by the Deep State/globalists.

Where does it end?
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:39 am to
It’s gonna be a great year for Neocons!
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:40 am to
The USA set it up and the USA can rip the rug right out from under their feet. The rug called Venezuela just got ripped. The dark money that funds the rest of the globalists is about to get "tomahawked"!!

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:56 am to
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The USA set it up and the USA can rip the rug right out from under their feet. The rug called Venezuela just got ripped. The dark money that funds the rest of the globalists is about to get "tomahawked"!!
Holy upside down cake Batman! Where do you think the oil money is going to?
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:59 am to
*sever

Please fix your title, OP.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Were they acting as a player in the US fentanyl trade? Yes.


I'm for Pax Americana replacing the old world order, but could we avoid lying about it?

There is ZERO evidence of Venezuela being a player in the US fentanyl trade. Maduro's indictment accused him of trafficking cocaine. Not one word about fentanyl.

One of the benefits about asserting ourselves as king of the Western Hemisphere is that we don't have to justify ourselves to anyone. "We will act only according to the best interests of the US. We are taking Venezuela, because it is in our best interest. What is anybody going to do about it?"
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:08 pm to
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involvement is often linked to a network known as the Cartel of the Suns, described as a loose affiliation of cells within Venezuela’s armed forces (army, navy, air force, and National Guard) that enable the transit of narcotics rather than operating as a traditional hierarchical cartel. ? Investigators have identified over 120 active and retired high-ranking Venezuelan military officers implicated in cocaine smuggling, with activities including authorizing drug flights, manipulating radar systems, providing armed protection for shipments, and demanding payments from traffickers to secure routes.

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Common trafficking paths involve sourcing cocaine from Colombia (often via partnerships with groups like the FARC, ELN, or FARC dissidents), storing it on Venezuelan ranches, and shipping it by air or sea to destinations like the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Suriname, West Africa, and Europe. [31] U.S. estimates suggest 200–250 metric tons of cocaine transited through Venezuela annually in recent years. [24] [26] The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) has also identified Venezuela as a key transit route for cocaine in its 2025 World Drug Report.

InsightCrime: Cartel of the Sons
UN: Venezuela Drug Links
Globalinitiative: Venezuela captured by cartels
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 2:25 pm to
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involvement is often linked to a network known as the Cartel of the Suns,


What does any of what you quoted have to do with FENTANYL?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 2:27 pm to
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US demands from Venezuela to sever economic ties with Iran, Cuba, China, Russia — TV
And this is why we captured Maduro. Plain and simple. To send a message. Stay out of the western hemisphere.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 2:37 pm to
Everything happening now is going to screw over China economically. They’ve been getting sweetheart deals on oil from Venezuela and Iran. That party is about to stop.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:27 pm to
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So are we done pretending this was about drugs?
A certain Venezuelan ex-president and his wife would like to think so.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23403 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:49 pm to
So I just want to make sure I understand your position.

You dont dispute the links that I provided outlining extensive and detailed involvement of the Maduro regime with drug trafficking?

You dont dispute the validity of the need to remove Chinese influence from nations in the western hemisphere?

You feel that because Trump and I referenced one specific drug which my quotes didn’t specifically reference (but my links did) that the validity and legitimacy of the regime change is called into question?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:01 pm to
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You feel that because Trump and I referenced one specific drug which my quotes didn’t specifically reference (but my links did) that the validity and legitimacy of the regime change is called into question?


We're in a new international system. The US does whatever President Trump says is in our best interest. It doesn't have to be "legitimate."

It's unseemly to lie about fentanyl. That's just a PR move, which is now unnecessary.

I read the first link, and didn't see any reference to fentanyl. Seems like you would have quoted some passages showing fentanyl if they existed.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23403 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:24 pm to
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It's unseemly to lie about fentanyl. That's just a PR move, which is now unnecessary.

Unseemly?

Were in a cold civil war with socialists, a global kinetic war with the globalists and a race against the debt service clock economically so I’m just not gonna worry much about whether the NY Times thinks there’s fentanyl in Venezuela when everyone can see and agrees there’s government sponsored drug trafficking happening down there.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:34 pm to
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whether the NY Times thinks there’s fentanyl in Venezuela when everyone can see and agrees there’s government sponsored drug trafficking happening down there.


We aren't far apart in our views. I just don't see the benefit in lying about the specifics of why we're doing what we're doing. Drugs trafficked by Venezuela are a big deal. There's just nothing to suggest that fentanyl is part of that.

I'm not relying on the NYT for that information. I defer to the Trump DOJ that wouldn't lie about fentanyl in sworn court documents (the Maduro indictment). ZERO reference to fentanyl.

Trump doesn't need the approval of anyone. He broke the system. Let's hope his instincts are great as usual.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Diosdado Cabello and Vladimir Padrino Lopez are taking all the weapons out of the barracks and taking them to clandestine locations, in houses or farms, this is very dangerous for the Venezuelan people and for the peace that you want to offer. These two criminals have been quiet out of fear, but in what they can they will go to war against the Venezuelan people to sabotage everything you are achieving. I don't want to advise you, but I think these two elements should be captured or in the worst case neutralized
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Posted by LsuNav
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Member since Mar 2008
2183 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:56 pm to
We are supposed to be the good guys. One day the world is going to sack us and smile as they gut our descendants.
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