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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:43 pm to SPEEDY
LINK ]What Happens If Some House Members Start Voting ‘Present’? (National Review)
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A few months back, the Congressional Research Service prepared a useful report on how the speaker of the House is chosen. The CRS report, relying on authoritative House practice manuals, explains that the speaker is elected by a majority of members voting “for a person by name.”
Translation: 218 votes are not necessary if (a) fewer than 435 members attend the vote, or (b) members who are present opt not to vote for someone by name — i.e., if those latter members vote “present.” Thus, the report elaborates in footnote 13 (page 3), “In the period since the House first reached its current size of 435 Members (in 1913), six Speakers have been elected with fewer than 218 votes.”
Let’s say that, in order to register dissatisfaction with Kevin McCarthy, Republican members were to vote “present” rather than voting for a named alternative, such as Jim Jordan (the alternative who got the most votes, 20, in round three, but who backs McCarthy and says he doesn’t want the job). If there were enough “present” votes, New York Democrat Hakeem Jeffries could be elected speaker with just the 212 votes he amassed in round three from the unified Democrats. I believe that would take 12 “present” votes. (For Jeffries to win with 212, there could be no more than 423 votes for named candidates — out of the total of 435 House members.)
I would assume Republicans are aware of this and bearing it in mind. On the other hand, before today’s fiasco, I would have assumed Republicans would not have opposed McCarthy in the absence of having a viable alternative. By the way, I do not believe Jordan is a viable alternative; unlike McCarthy, he is not as acceptable to moderate Republicans as he is popular with pro-Trumpers and the anti-McCarthy dissenters.
According to some reports (see, e.g., here), a number of the dissenters have warned McCarthy that they don’t care whether their opposition to him leads to the election of a Democrat. The possibility of Jeffries’ being installed as speaker is remote, but it is not impossible — and, after today, not unforeseeable.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:43 pm to SPEEDY
Spartz is that Ukrainian chick:
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:44 pm to Junky
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She is off the rails here and can no longer be trusted.
Some of you guys are worse than the skyscreaming progressive alphabet people. Is it not in your capacity to disagree with someone on even one issue without jettisoning them aside like yesterday's trash? You'll be l
stranded on an island of your own making if you dismiss anyone who disagrees with you on anything. Purists are lonely people.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:46 pm to Adajax
Sounds like Buck is no longer voting for McCarthy on this next ballot.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:46 pm to Adajax
Byron Donalds has spoken to McCarthy. His one ask of McCarthy:
Allow just one member to call for a vote seeking the ouster of the Speaker.
Allow just one member to call for a vote seeking the ouster of the Speaker.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:47 pm to MFn GIMP
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Sounds like Buck is no longer voting for McCarthy on this next ballot.
Seems to be the case.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:48 pm to Adajax
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Adajax
Not negotiating with people who want to damage America doesn’t make us like prog filth. Try again RINO.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:48 pm to EKG
If McCarthy had been a better minority leader during the last cycle, he would have had a larger majority from which to draw the necessary votes to end this. Somewhat ironically, if had been such a leader, he wouldn't have to do this and would likely have been speaker by acclaimation.
At this point, this is unprecedented enough that he should have the class to step aside and support someone who can get to 218. At least, that's my $0.02.
At this point, this is unprecedented enough that he should have the class to step aside and support someone who can get to 218. At least, that's my $0.02.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:49 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Eyepatch McCain made that accusation yesterday.
Is MTG implying the freedom caucus are Dem stooges?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:51 pm to Taxing Authority
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Is MTG implying the freedom caucus are Dem stooges? Eyepatch McCain made that accusation yesterday.
Sort of like we’re all Putin stooges for not wanting to launder any more money in Ukraine.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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At this point, this is unprecedented enough that he should have the class to step aside and support someone who can get to 218. At least, that's my $0.02.
It's his turn though.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:53 pm to MFn GIMP
Look at all these smug pieces of shite. Makes me sick.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:55 pm to BananaManCan
Is this where Scalise starts making his move?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:56 pm to BananaManCan
Tweet: Steve Scalise is now much more active on the House floor.
At least they’re attempting to negotiate.
At least they’re attempting to negotiate.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:00 pm to EKG
Reminder - Pelosi was elected Speaker on her first try
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:01 pm to Ace Midnight
If only the rest of our (R)epresentatives had the courage that these 20 do our country would be in a much better place.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:06 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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This is fascinating.

Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:06 pm to EKG
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Byron Donalds has spoken to McCarthy. His one ask of McCarthy:
Allow just one member to call for a vote seeking the ouster of the Speaker.
Which apparently was the rule before Pelosi changed it? Is that true?
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