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re: **US Congress ROUND 13 vote complete; 6 dissenters remain. House is adjourned until 10pm**

Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:39 pm to
Spartz still present…she looking PISSED
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:43 pm to
LINK ]What Happens If Some House Members Start Voting ‘Present’? (National Review)
quote:

A few months back, the Congressional Research Service prepared a useful report on how the speaker of the House is chosen. The CRS report, relying on authoritative House practice manuals, explains that the speaker is elected by a majority of members voting “for a person by name.”

Translation: 218 votes are not necessary if (a) fewer than 435 members attend the vote, or (b) members who are present opt not to vote for someone by name — i.e., if those latter members vote “present.” Thus, the report elaborates in footnote 13 (page 3), “In the period since the House first reached its current size of 435 Members (in 1913), six Speakers have been elected with fewer than 218 votes.”

Let’s say that, in order to register dissatisfaction with Kevin McCarthy, Republican members were to vote “present” rather than voting for a named alternative, such as Jim Jordan (the alternative who got the most votes, 20, in round three, but who backs McCarthy and says he doesn’t want the job). If there were enough “present” votes, New York Democrat Hakeem Jeffries could be elected speaker with just the 212 votes he amassed in round three from the unified Democrats. I believe that would take 12 “present” votes. (For Jeffries to win with 212, there could be no more than 423 votes for named candidates — out of the total of 435 House members.)

I would assume Republicans are aware of this and bearing it in mind. On the other hand, before today’s fiasco, I would have assumed Republicans would not have opposed McCarthy in the absence of having a viable alternative. By the way, I do not believe Jordan is a viable alternative; unlike McCarthy, he is not as acceptable to moderate Republicans as he is popular with pro-Trumpers and the anti-McCarthy dissenters.

According to some reports (see, e.g., here), a number of the dissenters have warned McCarthy that they don’t care whether their opposition to him leads to the election of a Democrat. The possibility of Jeffries’ being installed as speaker is remote, but it is not impossible — and, after today, not unforeseeable.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:43 pm to
Spartz is that Ukrainian chick:




Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8673 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:44 pm to
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She is off the rails here and can no longer be trusted.


Some of you guys are worse than the skyscreaming progressive alphabet people. Is it not in your capacity to disagree with someone on even one issue without jettisoning them aside like yesterday's trash? You'll be l
stranded on an island of your own making if you dismiss anyone who disagrees with you on anything. Purists are lonely people.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:46 pm to
Sounds like Buck is no longer voting for McCarthy on this next ballot.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:46 pm to
Byron Donalds has spoken to McCarthy. His one ask of McCarthy:

Allow just one member to call for a vote seeking the ouster of the Speaker.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Sounds like Buck is no longer voting for McCarthy on this next ballot.

Seems to be the case.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Adajax


Not negotiating with people who want to damage America doesn’t make us like prog filth. Try again RINO.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95669 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:48 pm to
If McCarthy had been a better minority leader during the last cycle, he would have had a larger majority from which to draw the necessary votes to end this. Somewhat ironically, if had been such a leader, he wouldn't have to do this and would likely have been speaker by acclaimation.

At this point, this is unprecedented enough that he should have the class to step aside and support someone who can get to 218. At least, that's my $0.02.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Is MTG implying the freedom caucus are Dem stooges?
Eyepatch McCain made that accusation yesterday.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6078 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Is MTG implying the freedom caucus are Dem stooges? Eyepatch McCain made that accusation yesterday.


Sort of like we’re all Putin stooges for not wanting to launder any more money in Ukraine.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

At this point, this is unprecedented enough that he should have the class to step aside and support someone who can get to 218. At least, that's my $0.02.


It's his turn though.
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4353 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:53 pm to
Look at all these smug pieces of shite. Makes me sick.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:55 pm to
Is this where Scalise starts making his move?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:56 pm to
Tweet: Steve Scalise is now much more active on the House floor.

At least they’re attempting to negotiate.
Posted by BallHawg10
On the Flagship - Fayetteville
Member since Mar 2011
4758 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:00 pm to
Reminder - Pelosi was elected Speaker on her first try
Posted by low pro drifter
Member since Dec 2019
408 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:01 pm to
If only the rest of our (R)epresentatives had the courage that these 20 do our country would be in a much better place.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:03 pm to
This is fascinating.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

This is fascinating.


Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88199 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Byron Donalds has spoken to McCarthy. His one ask of McCarthy:

Allow just one member to call for a vote seeking the ouster of the Speaker.


Which apparently was the rule before Pelosi changed it? Is that true?
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