re: U.S. commits to help Ukraine for 10 more yrs

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It is a necessary evil at this point

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No. No, it really isn't. Like, not at all.

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I'm honestly with most of this board that I hate the money being spent there

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Well that's good...

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on the other hand Putin isn't going to stop with Ukraine.

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Really? What synapses are firing within the gray matter between you ears that causes you to postulate the hypothesis that Putin wants to openly invite armed conflict against a NATO nation and have the entirety of European and US militaries organized against him in open conflict?

Putin's only moves in recent times have been to reclaim Russian-sympathetic former Russian territories (including eastern Ukraine) such as Crimea and Georgia. Where has he made moves to annex or occupy areas that are not historically part of Russia and are openly hostile towards Russia?

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This needs to end with him being ousted and not a clone of him taking control

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This needs to end with the Soros puppet Zelensky being ousted and the international globalist elite money laundering machine within Ukraine being totally dismantled, which is exactly what Putin is trying to do since the US has been doing it right on his western border and prodding the Bear for decades now.

The only involvement we need to have at all, is to send humanitarian aid and food to innocents and refugees of war fleeing embattled zones. Other than that, we need to let it fall and let Russia announce their findings to the world once they uncover whatever evidence isn't destroyed by then (about US bioweapons research at UKR labs, and illicit international crime and money laundering).

Necessary evil my arse.

Ah, the old you live in a bubble and need to do research and follow the science act. Dust that off and pose it against anyone you disagree with. You learned something during covid, didn't you

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And Putin might not have been doing this if NATO hadnt violated its agreements and keeps adding member states that border Russia.

I have no love for Russia either but I can understand why they are doing this.

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Then why do something that makes them do exactly what you said they were doing? The moral high ground is lost. Nukes are a non factor in this as well imo

Lets calm down fellas, its VERY PISS POOR reporting by the msm..

The US agreed to a G7 resolution to take the interest from Russian frozen assets each year for the next 10 years, which currently rests at about 50 billion per year.

Now ancillary facts:

The reason they did for 10 years is I believe because it has to be a unanimous vote and they know when Trump gets in office he respects SOVERIGN countries and their right to keep their own money (keep in mind we have 14 trillion in assets abroad, when china starts seizing factories lets see about that goose and gander nonsense).

Second, miraculously when asked how much to rebuild Zelensky said about 500 billion ....and treefiddy. Hmm wonder how he came up with that number since the two men in charge of reconstruction were fired or quit after they became whistleblowers about govt theft of US donated funds.

Third, they are leaving the G7 to head to a resort in Switzerland where 90 countries and NGOs are to discuss how to spend the 500 billion, while ukranians sweat their arse off and drink stinking water due to no power, waiting on word from the front on how many more have died.....and cargo pants is shopping for yet another villa.

frick Ukraine
frick Russia
frick Israel
frick 'Palestine'

I hope they all suffer horribly.

To which I respond - that feeding frenzie gathered around that MIC is a bitch. Grinds up our shoulders and corrupts already morally bankrupt politicians like Potatus.

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Based on Putin's past if he is speaking he is lying?

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What did he lie about?

How does his lying compare to Michael's husband Barry or Joe Biden's lying?

Gonna be a thorn in the as*s of Putin.

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The cyberwar in this conflict is an interesting read. J would encourage it. We are all victims of the propaganda as we do very little to see what the source of the info and who owns it is. Ponder this: is it in Russia's best interest to have the American public at each other's throats (i.e. this thread) and to dissuade American support in this conflict? Hopefully you aren't so polarized that you disagree with that statement. I don't care to change anyone's mind, however, if would love to change their approach. Start off with accepting that most of us reside in the least educated state in the nation and that none of use are sitting on all of the intelligence involved in this. There isnt a sound posting here that has this all figured out

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I’ll give you that Russia has enhanced propaganda techniques they have used all over the world, including their most successful ideological subversion of the American Left. But at this very moment it is very much the American Military Industrial complex and corporate/tech interests that are mind fricking Americans. I don’t see how you can say otherwise in our current political climate.

I've stated on this board several time that the MIC isn't dumb. It just doesn't have to be polarizing or black and white. It is completely feasible that Putin needs to be stopped AND the MIC/politicians aren't letting a good crisis go to waste. I reside somewhere in all of that. Let's say I am correct and Putin is full of shite about nato and just wants to capture territories to restore the ussr to it's original stature. It is the fault of our government becoming what it is that the people cannot unite behind it. Then again I can be completely wrong. We are all basing our opinions on what we believe to be the best sources we have available to us. Nothing wrong with that to me. A line is crossed when someone adopts the tactics of the blue hair mafia and attacks someone they disagree with

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Well since we are already funding terrorists in Afghanistan(Taliban and Al-Qaeda), I guess the government says we might as well give all our money away to everyone and anyone.

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I'm in the middle of listening to the Super Bad episode on Shawn Ryan. Good grief...