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re: US Citizen Deported by ICE

Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:59 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59219 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:59 am to
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The mother is the illegal in this situation, the child is not.

Facts…not feelings.


You’re arguing it is factual to use an adjective as a noun when you are mad at the person? And it’s emotional to use language correctly?


If you could see past your own emotions, you’d realize how silly that is. Take some deep breaths.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:04 am to
Another US Congressman more concerned with illegal immigrants than Americans. Reachel Morales is not an American, she's an illegal immigrant who had due process and has had a final deportation order for 10 years. Her children are American citizens and guess how old they are? 4 and 7 - so again if she had actually been deported 10 years ago like she should have been, she would have zero American citizen children and zero claim to remain here. It's intentional and it's obvious.

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In response to Morales’ case, Congressman Troy Carter issued a statement calling the family’s treatment cruel.

“I am outraged by the federal government’s cruel and unlawful treatment of the Morales family. Deporting a mother and her U.S. citizen children — including a child battling cancer — without due process is a direct assault on our Constitution and everything we stand for as a nation," Carter said. “Due process is not optional; it is a fundamental right that protects every individual from government overreach. Reachel Morales followed the rules, only to be betrayed by Trump’s ICE agents who exploited her trust. This miscarriage of justice cannot stand. I will continue to monitor this case — and others like it — to ensure that families are treated with dignity, and that due process remains the bedrock of our democracy.”

No, if she followed the rules she would have left in 2015 when she got her final deportation order.
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Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:47 am to
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That goal is easily accomplished by simply stating “the mother who entered the country illegally.”


Are you aware that people routinely shorten phrases?

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You’re claiming that a person is championing something by referring to people as humans?


You’re either being disingenuous or completely moronic if this is your take from my statement.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:48 am to
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If you could see past your own emotions, you’d realize how silly that is.


Incredible levels of irony.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39730 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:51 am to
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atlgamecockman


The left can't meme and continue to show how racist they are. Shocked.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9743 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:03 pm to
I love when Obama ordered actual confirmed U.S. citizens murdered in drone strikes without due process. Somehow, the crybaby democrats and their lapdog mainstream news media virtually ignored all that and the millions of people he deported. Weird.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39773 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:06 pm to
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And it’s emotional to use language correctly?


In this instance, yes, it is as you are emotionally upset about it
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:07 pm to
The kid wasn't deported, dickhole. The mom was deported, and she decided to bring the kid along.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:11 pm to
I'd classify it as a political cartoon, not a meme really.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39730 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8771 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:06 pm to
Cubbies, I understand those on the Left like to try and control the language, but I’m not taking part in that game.

I don’t insist that you call them illegals and if it offends your personal sensibilities to do so, you can refer to the individuals however you prefer.

Myself, and I’m reasonably sure others will continue to refer to people who come into our country illegally as illegals.

It’s an accurate term to describe someone who is breaking our immigration laws - much as I would refer to someone stealing as a “thief” or someone who takes another’s life as a “murderer” or someone who defaces public property as a “vandal”.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8337 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:13 pm to
8 pages on this bullshite?

It was the mother's decision.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86235 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Did you really think, with the election of President Trump, that the censorship and propaganda had ended? If you did, you might want to remove those rose-colored glasses and look behind the curtain.




Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6776 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:31 pm to
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The kid wasn't deported, dickhole. The mom was deported, and she decided to bring the kid along.

It’s long thread that has been going on for a few days.

This is not a normal deportation. She was at routine immigration meeting with her daughters. After the meeting she was detained. The father was notified and he came to the immigration office and was trying to get his family released. He had an immigration lawyer that never talked to the mother. He wanted the children released to him and their aunt who is a US citizen.

There is something weird about this deportation. Why was she detained at a routine check in? Why was he not detained while he was at the ICE detention center? Why was the lawyer not able to talk to her? Why did all this happen so fast? She’s not a member of a gang, so why was she deported in 24hrs?
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

ned nederlander
would you prefer the child to be separated from mom?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39773 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

There is something weird about this deportation. Why was she detained at a routine check in? Why was he not detained while he was at the ICE detention center? Why was the lawyer not able to talk to her? Why did all this happen so fast? She’s not a member of a gang, so why was she deported in 24hrs?


Normal people don’t care anymore. Get them out
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14593 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:48 pm to
Hey, Ned......You know the truth...The kid wasn't deported... the Mother took the kid with her. Why do you slimy lib bastards lie about EVERYTHING?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5566 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:20 pm to
DHS had given a version of a story where the mother was ordered deported 5 years ago and seemingly just encountered ICE again this month and was deported. That version of the story is pretty defensible.

However, another version of the story is the child’s mother applied for asylum under the remain in Mexico policy and was released into the US by ICE with an obligation to regularly check-in. She had been doing following that instruction over the last 4 years and was detained and deported without at the last check-in. Her attorney alleges ICE instructed her to bring both her children to the meeting. That version of the story is much less defensible.

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Before their deportation, both families had been dutifully complying with Ice orders to regularly check-in. VML’s mother had arrived at the US southern border during the “remain in Mexico” program instituted during the first Trump administration, which forced non-Mexican asylum seekers to wait south of the border while their cases were processed.


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I don’t know which version is correct but I am skeptical of the government’s narrative and am generally sympathetic to this woman’s version because I too was once a stranger in land of Egypt.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14424 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Do you refer to your coworkers, friends and family as “legals?”

Do you refer to your co-workers and friends as "mothers" "fathers" etc? You're doing the EXACT INVERSE of what you're accusing others of. You want to refer to her as "mother" to give an additional emotional impact to sway public opinion.

Legal is the assumed default. Like non-criminal. You don't have to call non-criminals "non-criminals". But it makes perfect sense to notate "criminals" when referring to them.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:04 pm to
None of that makes it factually accurate to say that ICE "deported a citizen".

The "citizen" was NOT deported. The mom chose to bring the kid.
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