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re: US Chinese Virus Tracker - 466,299 Cases, 16,686 Deaths, 26,104 Recovered (4/10/2020)
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:08 am to Dale51
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:08 am to Dale51
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I asked what the rates now were in order to accurately predict what they may become in America
if you actually want to know the number of infected are are doubling between 1.4 and 4 days. probably around 2 or 3 days. we probably have about 1000 or so infected now, do the math from there.
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:13 am to Srobi14
So 5 weeks in and 3 deaths outside of one nursing home that fricked up
Need to import some more cruise ships, these numbers are shite
Need to import some more cruise ships, these numbers are shite
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:15 am to LSURussian
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How is this a Political Board topic?
Because apparently the fact that we're the beginning stages of a pandemic with a mortality rate substantially higher than influenza is secondary to the fact that it could negatively affect the economy and the election.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:17 am to NYNolaguy1
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The healthcare system in South Korea is about on par with the US
Fair enough. That said how about the other regions I pointed out, and is the healthcare system in S.K. open to all there?
"About" on par is not the same as equal to.
How much of a danger do you think the people in America face?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:19 am to Boatshoes
Meh... That's a stretch in multiple ways.
By the Fourth of July you won't be able to find a story on COVID-19 without searching for it.
By the Fourth of July you won't be able to find a story on COVID-19 without searching for it.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:20 am to Azkiger
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No, you were asking it to insinuate that it's not a big deal because the numbers were so low.
That only exists in your mind?
Can you explain how it is that you know about why I asked?
Thanks..should be interesting.
Are you just assuming that? I hear thats bad.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:21 am to gthog61
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Need to import some more cruise ships, these numbers are shite
What? This is incoherent, what is it that you are trying to say?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:24 am to Azkiger
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317 Cases, 15 Deaths, 8 Recovered (3/6/2020)
So 330,000,000 people 317 cases. 15 (old people with respiratory problems to begin with?) died.
Is that a big deal?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:25 am to LSURussian
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How is this a Political Board topic?
It directly impacts all political decisions?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:27 am to Srobi14
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Science requires trust, that people are being truthful and a scientists career is dependent on their reputation for being honest (not fudging numbers). If a scientist just once is shown to be dishonest in regards to their work they are excommunicated from the community, generally lose all funding and are no longer taken seriously by their peers. In this way a scientist like this is not the same as an ESPN or political "expert".
Climate “scientists” laugh at this. Their science is guided by progressive policies and they are thus exempt from scrutiny by their peers.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:27 am to Azkiger
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Viruses mutate quickly this virus is new.
By this rationale then so is the flu virus. New strains are always developing and new vaccines are needed and developed.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:27 am to Dale51
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That said how about the other regions I pointed out, and is the healthcare system in S.K. open to all there?
Thats not terribly relevant to me, as you noted they have varying degrees of healthcare quality thst might pump up that CFR number to unrealistic figures not easily relatable to the population here.
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"About" on par is not the same as equal to.
Maybe so, but I think its within an order of magnitude of what ti expect. It's also good enough to fall right in the middle of the CDC numbers that were released as to what they are expecting. Not to mention you arent going to have the local communist party here welding people in their homes for two weeks. South Korea is much closer to the mark.
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How much of a danger do you think the people in America face?
I think the US is looking at the equivalent of a very bad flu season coming up with 3-7 times as many fatalities vs the average flu season, with populations 60-80+ hit hardest.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:27 am to Srobi14
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if you actually want to know the number of infected are are doubling between 1.4 and 4 days. probably around 2 or 3 days. we probably have about 1000 or so infected now, do the math from there.
Interesting coincidence...Cuomo was just on Fox saying that more people are recovering from it than are coming down with it.
Do the math from there.
It was also pointed out that most of the new cases are found in households with someone who already has the virus, and not a "community spread" number.
Big difference.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:30 am
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:30 am to Dale51
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So 330,000,000 people 317 cases. 15 (old people with respiratory problems to begin with?) died.
Is that a big deal?
I have a solution to stop the virus from spreading- just stop testing. As of now something like 1800 tests have been done across the whole US with three hundred and something testing positive.
If they stop testing no one can test positive, and we can go back to normal, meaning everyone can claim this isnt a big deal.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:31 am to Dale51
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How much of a danger do you think the people in America face?
Right now, I honestly think that the danger to our population is significantly higher than it is in China. There, they have managed to get the number of new cases to plateau (if you believe the official numbers) by essentially shutting down their society and implementing draconian quarantine measures.
Meanwhile here, we're not testing, telling people it's safe to fly, allowing flights to continue to most hot zones, and basically taking an attitude of...
I have no reason to believe that the 2%-3% mortality rate seen in China, Italy, etc will be substantially lower. Perhaps 1%? We have no reason to believe that this won't kill many more people than season influenza if it becomes widespread.
I see no situation in which we're going to take the sort of quarantine measures within our society that would prevent it from being more widespread here than in China.
Understand that if you get this, for the most part, it's supportive care. Antivirals may help. But it's not as if you've got a bacterial pneumonia, you get intravenous Zosyn and a respiratory fluroquinolone and get cured.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:32 am to NYNolaguy1
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If they stop testing no one can test positive, and we can go back to normal, meaning everyone can claim this isnt a big deal.
Do you have to stretch and limber up before you make such contortions??
You people!
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:34 am to Dale51
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Can you explain how it is that you know about why I asked?
I did in the very next line that you left out of that quote.
Just stop.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:35 am to Boatshoes
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Right now, I honestly think that the danger to our population is significantly higher than it is in China. There, they have managed to get the number of new cases to plateau
Yup...China has some good methods of containment. It was just reported that all the people in one area of China were moved to one hotel...and then the hotel just collapsed for some reason!
Ain't Communism a hoot?!
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:36 am to Azkiger
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I did in the very next line that you left out of that quote.
No you didn't. Actually you couldn't know my motivation.
Just stop already.
Here is that "explained in the very next line"
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If your intent was what you say now you'd have just read the thread title which is accurate within the last 24 hours.
How is that an exploitation??
Just stop.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:43 am
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:37 am to Dale51
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Do you have to stretch and limber up before you make such contortions??
It wasn't me that suggested we only have three hundred and something cases in the US.
Like I said if you really want that number to stay low we should stop testing.
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