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re: US Chinese Virus Tracker - 466,299 Cases, 16,686 Deaths, 26,104 Recovered (4/10/2020)

Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:54 am to
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:54 am to
quote:

The CDC figure includes pneumonia.


The CDC figure? So I got it from the CDC? So the CDC includes that in their reporting? Ok!
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:05 am to
There are 331 MILLION people in America and 317 of them have Coronovirus. Do you know how idiotic it is that you are tracking this bullshite? All of these other things are more likely to kill you!!! Nobody is in an uproar or giving 8 BILLION DOLLARS to fund them or even keeping a daily tracker on TD for them. Stop being a fearmonger OP.

Heart Disease
Deaths in 2017: 647,457
Percentage of total deaths: 23.5%

Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 599,108
Percentage of total deaths: 21.3%

Unintentional Injuries
Unintentional injuries
Deaths in 2017: 169,936
Percentage of total deaths: 6%

Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease
Deaths in 2017: 160,201
Percentage of total deaths: 5.7%

Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases
Deaths in 2017: 146,383
Percentage of total deaths: 5.2%

Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 121,404
Percentage of total deaths: 4.3%

Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 83,564
Percentage of total deaths: 3%

Influenza and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 55,672
Percentage of total deaths: 2%

Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 50,633
Percentage of total deaths: 1.8%

Suicide
Deaths in 2017: 47,173


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124154 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:05 am to
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The CDC figure includes pneumonia.
Not sure what "figure", but pneumonia is the cause of death in most CV cases. So it would be included in any CFR report.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:08 am to
Was referring to the post from flexdog.

Again apologies for confusion. Can we please drop this. Not looking for a fight.

ETA for clairty: was referring to CDC 6.9% mortality from flu and pneumonia. Point attempting to make: we cannot extrapolate corona mortality from the 6.9% figure. That is all.

I believe we are on the same side of this discussion.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:12 am to
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China Cannot Explain Death of ‘Cured’ Coronavirus Patient


And?

Oh no, we're all gonna die!!

Guess what? You're gonna die. I'm gonna die. My husband is gonna die. My kids are gonna die. My parents are gonna die. We ALL die. That's a fact. No matter what the government does or doesn't do, that fact doesn't change for ANY OF US. Stop being afraid and stop trying to make everyone else afraid.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124154 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:13 am to
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Not looking for a fight.
Gosh. Hope my post didn't come off that way.
There are a lot of folks genuinely confused by misleading info being put out. Didn't know the context here.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:15 am to
Not at all. I thought the other poster misunderstood the point I was trying to make.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:15 am to
My beef is with the OP. I may have replied on you my bad. This whole topic is just the OP trying to push the hype. I'm just trying to calm it. It's all good.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99236 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:18 am to
You should all come together for a beer now that the is over.

Or would that help the spread of CV19?
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:24 am to
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19045 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:27 am to
Just a reminder

The seasonal flu went from 0 to 250,000 hospitalizations in 60 days this flu season.


Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:29 am to
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Flu season


How long does flu season last?

And what's your point?

Here's the CDC numbers for 2018-2019 (2020 not available). Not sure what your numbers are referencing.

CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza.

This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21740 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:35 am to
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How bout you just update one thread instead of wasting internet space creating the same tired thread everyday


Stout made as many threads about the same thing. Didn't see you saying this in his threads.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21740 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:38 am to
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More people will be murdered in Chicago the next three nights than the number of people who have died from the virus the last two weeks in the U.S. much less Chicago but for some reason no one gives a shite.


You're missing the point. That's a relatively high mortality rate for how easily this spreads.

Also go look at any chart monitoring this, it starts off small and grows exponentially. If the trend holds more people will die in the next two weeks than these two weeks, and so on.

Will it slow down? I hope. But outside of China's cooked numbers we haven't seen it yet.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:52 am to
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for how easily this spreads


Keep your distance. And don't kiss.

Those are two pieces of advice that could be crucial in reducing the spread of the coronavirus.

Public health officials say the spread has been mainly driven through people spending time indoors with others who have the disease.

"Looks like the main driver is not widespread community infection — looks like it's household-level infection," Dr. Bruce Aylward, a senior adviser to the World Health Organization, said at a news conference in Geneva on Feb. 25.

Indeed, data from China's cases show that most of the spread is happening among family members who live together.

LINK
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:54 am to
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I would be shocked if it infects 1/3 of the country.


This Harvard epidemiologist disagrees. brief interview What do the models you've made say?
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:02 am to
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This Harvard epidemiologist


I wonder if he knows this Harvard Scientist?

Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, has been arrested and criminally charged with making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the U.S. Defense Department about his ties to a Chinese government program to recruit foreign scientists and researchers.

The Justice Department says Lieber, 60, lied about his contact with the Chinese program known as the Thousand Talents Plan, which the U.S. has previously flagged as a serious intelligence concern. He also is accused of lying about about a lucrative contract he signed with China's Wuhan University of Technology.

In an affidavit unsealed Tuesday, FBI Special Agent Robert Plumb said Lieber, who led a Harvard research group focusing on nanoscience, had established a research lab at the Wuhan university — apparently unbeknownst to Harvard.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:13 am to
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You're missing the point. That's a relatively high mortality rate for how easily this spreads.


Isn't part of that point where the cases are found. The healthcare system in America cannot be compared to that of Africa, Asia, South America, etc.

What are the number of cases in America and the deaths? (not Americans on cruise ships or in foreign lands.)
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:16 am to
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This Harvard epidemiologist disagrees.


So what??

Thats, just, like his opinion, man.

(are there other experts who disagree?)
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:18 am to
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I wonder if he knows this Harvard Scientist?


He seems nice.
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