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re: US Abruptly Cancels Media Conference After Zelensky Met With Trump's Ukraine Envoy
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:43 pm to Harry Boutte
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:43 pm to Harry Boutte
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By giving everything away?
Well if the idiot hadn't sold out his country to the DS he wouldn't of had to give up all they land that Russia has taken in the last few years.
So it was keep your citizens alive, keep your land. Forgo potentially getting a piece of paper with the word NATO on it. He made the wrong choice and continues to make bad choice after bad choice.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:44 pm to Harry Boutte
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You accuse the Ukraine government of corruption, yet give the Putin regime a pass?
You wouldn't fight if your country had been invaded?
We were being invaded for the last four years
What did you and your ilk do?
Also
We were ready for nuclear war when Russia was moving into Cuba
The USA and NATO have been continuously moving East towards Russia
When we said we wouldn’t
We were the provocateurs
We also cancelled an agreement by both sides
This war should have never started
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:45 pm to Harry Boutte
Third party negotiation with is common practice.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:47 pm to BCreed1
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You claimed we are all on Putin's side. Still have yet to back off that.
I’ve baited this cheese dick about 7 times on the threat of US troops on the ground in Ukraine and every time, he side steps it. He cant bring himself to lie about wanting American troops to die for his precious Ukraine, but he’ll lie about everything else.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:48 pm to Vacherie Saint
It's always fun when a major leftist comes out with nonfactual takes and get's schooled.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:48 pm to moneyg
First off, thank you for being rational.
I keep thinking about where I would draw the line for my own country. I'm not sure what all I'd be willing to sacrifice for our continued sovereignty It would be a lot considering the opponent in this case.
And has led to two world wars, after the last of which the civilized nations of the world got together and agreed that territorial gains made through violent aggression was to be a thing of the past. Especially since the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
I think that's exactly what Trump is trying do to - to his credit. It just looks to me that his approach is more one of appeasing Putin and sharing the spoils with him. Has anyone mentioned any kind of liability for reparations on Russia's part? Has any mention been made of any concessions at all on Russia's part?
And I have no qualms with simply withdrawing American support for Ukraine.
Seems like there is always risk when Putin is your neighbor.
It's funny, because I see it as the best deal for Putin is one with Trump sitting at the negotiating table.
Trump is already demanding mineral resources from Ukraine in compensation for aid given. Were those the original terms of the weapons deal?
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what do you estimate is the eventual loss of life and territory?
I keep thinking about where I would draw the line for my own country. I'm not sure what all I'd be willing to sacrifice for our continued sovereignty It would be a lot considering the opponent in this case.
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I mean territory has been lost via war since the beginning of time. It’s not an incomprehensible idea.
And has led to two world wars, after the last of which the civilized nations of the world got together and agreed that territorial gains made through violent aggression was to be a thing of the past. Especially since the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
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I don’t think the US is going to force the end of the war.
I think that's exactly what Trump is trying do to - to his credit. It just looks to me that his approach is more one of appeasing Putin and sharing the spoils with him. Has anyone mentioned any kind of liability for reparations on Russia's part? Has any mention been made of any concessions at all on Russia's part?
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I have no qualm with Ukraine going forward backed by Europe. If that’s what they want, I support the endeavor.
And I have no qualms with simply withdrawing American support for Ukraine.
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But I also realize there is real risk there.
Seems like there is always risk when Putin is your neighbor.
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It’s obvious to me that the best deal for Ukraine will be the one with the US sitting at the table helping negotiate.
It's funny, because I see it as the best deal for Putin is one with Trump sitting at the negotiating table.
Trump is already demanding mineral resources from Ukraine in compensation for aid given. Were those the original terms of the weapons deal?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:49 pm to Rohan Gravy
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We were being invaded for the last four years
What did you and your ilk do?
Okay, you're not serious either.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:50 pm to Harry Boutte
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What do you people expect the head of state to do when his country is invaded by an armed force?
Sue for peace when most of your fighting age men are dead.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:50 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:Well link up this great plan.
It's funny, because I see it as the best deal for Putin is one with Trump sitting at the negotiating table.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:52 pm to BCreed1
He keeps ignoring facts and repeating media talking points over and over again.
He’s out of his element
He’s out of his element
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:52 pm to Perfect Circle
He was ILLEGALLY invaded! He should call the cops!
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:53 pm to Jbird
He makes this comment after fricking blasting Trump for meeting with Putin.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:54 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:It's why the clown ignores the fact Kellog met with the Nazi prior to Putin.
He makes this comment after fricking blasting Trump for meeting with Putin.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:02 pm to Harry Boutte
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invade Latvia, Finland and Estonia next, right? After all, they're just begging for invasion with their provocative actions.
wouldn't care george w. bush (who loves the baby jesus) had no business putting them in NATO in the first place they bring nothing to the table. he put them in in 2004 as some sort of in your face victory lap as at the time our illegal invasion of iraq was a success. it's been twenty and none of those countries as any kind of military. so no i don't want a risk a nuclear war because bush's stupidity, just like i don't want to risk a war over obama's stupidity.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:02 pm to Vacherie Saint
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You keep wanting us to declare a side.
Liar.
I don't want Trump siding with Putin. That's it.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:04 pm to Harry Boutte
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What do you people expect the head of state to do when his country is invaded by an armed force?
Go full authoritarian fascist.
Wait, no he shouldn't have done that.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:06 pm to dickkellog
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wouldn't care george w. bush (who loves the baby jesus) had no business putting them in NATO in the first place
You totally missed the point.
The Point: Using having NATO on Russia's doorstep as a rationale for the invasion of Ukraine is invalidated by other NATO nations being on Russia's doorstep.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:06 pm to Harry Boutte
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I would draw the line for my own country
while we're on the subject kid what is your country because it doesn't seem to be the united states as for ukraine it's been part of russia for 400 years, crimea since the 13th century.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:07 pm to dickkellog
We are just funding Europe’s security apparatus while they legislate themselves into oblivion. They can’t even afford their NATO commitments.
They have cut their militaries under the assumption of US protection rendering themselves essentially worthless combat allies if shite were to really hit the fan.
Bloomberg
They have cut their militaries under the assumption of US protection rendering themselves essentially worthless combat allies if shite were to really hit the fan.
Bloomberg
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:07 pm to junkfunky
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Go full authoritarian fascist.
Wait, no he shouldn't have done that.
Why not? We did in WWII, not to mention the Civil War.
What does a patriot take off the table when fighting for the very existence of his country?
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