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re: Upstate NY man receives ICE warning about social media posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:34 am to Big4SALTbro
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:34 am to Big4SALTbro
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I actually think it should be protected, as in you don’t go to jail or get fined for it, however I don’t see an issue with saying here is a warning you are on the line here and of course putting someone on a watch list to make sure they don’t act out the threat.
What you're describing doesn't sound like free speech to me
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:35 am to RohanGonzales
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You assholes are insufferable.
There are many other countries more your speed if you aren't a believer in the freedom of speech. I recommend exploring your options.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:38 am to Robin Masters
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Except it wasn’t openly.
How is this relevant? You think your ability to criticize the government is less in an email than if you had a microphone at city hall?
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overtly threatening language about future events
What threat was made?
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 8:39 am
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:51 am to Eurocat
Based on the parts of his email that were published, I’m not real comfortable reading that the federal government is investigating him. I see nothing in his writing that warrants it.
The group representing him, FIRE, is best known for representing college students discriminated against by liberal college administrators and professors. Former UNCW professor Michael Adams was an early supporter. FIRE is a more centrist ACLU. I’m frankly surprised they didn’t jump all over this.
The group representing him, FIRE, is best known for representing college students discriminated against by liberal college administrators and professors. Former UNCW professor Michael Adams was an early supporter. FIRE is a more centrist ACLU. I’m frankly surprised they didn’t jump all over this.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:54 am to Eurocat
They should have George Floyded the little left-tard cock socket.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:58 am to OccamsStubble
quote:It stinks of intimidation, and if that's what you meant to intimate, just come out and say it.
Which bothers you more?
However, if he's wacko enough to send such a rant to a high-ranking public official, he deserves scrutiny to examine his mental state of mind.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:16 am to onmymedicalgrind
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This is all protected speech
The will never know peace is on the fence, and after Trump's 30-whatever felons let's stop pretending NY has a justice system.
Also the notice said he might be breaking the law, so there's that.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:19 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Why would they purposely not quote the worst part of the emails? Based on the information available in the OP....where's the threat?
There is no threat in what was quoted in the article.
But......skimming the article author's X feed appears to show that he does not hold a positive opinion of ICE. The man the article was written about also appears to be against ICE.
So without seeing the full, unredacted email that the guy sent to ICE, then I'm going to be skeptical about whether something was omitted from what was quoted because it wouldn't have fit the narrative.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:22 am to Big4SALTbro
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That isn’t the entire email, so until that’s posted hard to know if he made threats or not.
And yet the very first reply, upvoted massively by the sycophants here, makes the case that threats were made.
It’s frustrating AF how mindlessly tribal this board has become.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:25 am to onmymedicalgrind
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How is this relevant? You think your ability to criticize the government is less in an email than if you had a microphone at city hall?
You don’t have a right to email an individual threatening communications. Good lord man.
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What threat was made?
When you state in direct communication that someone will “never know peace” and their behavior will “lead to a downfall”, it is most definitely a threat.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:33 am to onmymedicalgrind
Look at you trying to white knight
You ppl are insane
You ppl are insane
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:40 am to onmymedicalgrind
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What threat was made?
I don’t see one.
However,
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without seeing the full, unredacted email that the guy sent to ICE, then I'm going to be skeptical about whether something was omitted from what was quoted because it wouldn't have fit the narrative.
seems logical as well.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:43 am to Robin Masters
Thank you Robin.
Some of you think "free speech" gives you the right to say anything anywhere, quite the contrary. The guy deserved a visit, a written notice, and a background check.
And why is he taking his daughter to Finland without her mother, investigate him for trafficking as well.
Some of you think "free speech" gives you the right to say anything anywhere, quite the contrary. The guy deserved a visit, a written notice, and a background check.
And why is he taking his daughter to Finland without her mother, investigate him for trafficking as well.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:44 am to onmymedicalgrind
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quote:
"will never know peace"
Any law enforcement would consider this a threat.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:51 am to Robin Masters
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When you state in direct communication that someone will “never know peace” and their behavior will “lead to a downfall”, it is most definitely a threat.
So, if I do the same thing to a woman who gets abortions like I get haircuts, am I threatening her?
If my pastor says the same thing from the pulpit on Sunday morning, is he also threatening her?
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:09 am to Ag Zwin
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So, if I do the same thing to a woman who gets abortions like I get haircuts, am I threatening her?
Maybe. Depends on the context and platform you use.
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my pastor says the same thing from the pulpit on Sunday morning, is he also threatening her?
I think most reasonable people who assume the pastor was attempting to appeal to sense of prudent decision making that comes from a life of salvation and redemption. Again context matters. The main criteria with threatening language is “intimidation”. Is the speaker trying to intimidate the audience into changing their behavior? If so, it’s likely a threat
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:11 am to Eurocat
Based solely on the watered down version of events described in that article, it is clear that he did in fact make threats and was deserving of the warning. He will lose his lawsuit.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:20 am to Robin Masters
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When you state in direct communication that someone will “never know peace” and their behavior will “lead to a downfall”, it is most definitely a threat.
Ahh, I see the confusion.
You don't know the legal definition of "threat." Hell, it looks like you don't even know the colloquial definition
You can either look it up and come back here and apologize for your stupidity, or just remain ignorant. Choice is yours.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:20 am to SDVTiger
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Look at you trying to white knight
For the first amendment? Proud to
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:21 am to trinidadtiger
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Thank you Robin.
Some of you think "free speech" gives you the right to say anything anywhere, quite the contrary.
What threat was made?
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