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re: Upstate NY man receives ICE warning about social media posts

Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:22 am to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:22 am to
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Any law enforcement would consider this a threat.

And thats a problem. Being thin skinned isn't an excuse for disregarding the Constitution.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:22 am to
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onmymedicalgrind


Oh, look. The little sewer rat has made an appearance this morning.

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Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:23 am to
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So, if I do the same thing to a woman who gets abortions like I get haircuts, am I threatening her?

quote:

Maybe. Depends on the context and platform you use.

He sends her a personal email just like this guy did. Everything in the email is the same word for word except swapping the Minnesota ICE incident for her decision to get her 10th abortion.

Illegal or not?
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 10:25 am
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12318 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:24 am to
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it is clear that he did in fact make threats

What threat did he make?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140189 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:25 am to
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Upstate NY man receives ICE warning about social media posts
He is suing over a warning? Does the warning not fall under the same auspices of speech which he claims is being limited?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99168 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:26 am to
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For the first amendment? Proud to


Of course you love nahzis and are proud of it

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60012 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:28 am to
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email he sent months earlier was considered a threat.


Free speech doesn’t mean you can threaten the life of an official. He is lucky he just got a warning. Your post is doing the exact opposite of what you intended. Did you even read the article?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:30 am to
I thought you were a lawyer? Surely you know what was in that email doesn’t meet the legal threshold of a “threat.”
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12318 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:31 am to
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nahzis

Unfortunately, you’re too dumb to appreciate the irony
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:32 am to
I suuport ICE and deporting all illegals, but nothing in the X post sounded threatening. He was just telling the guy his opinion of him. IMHO
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22008 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:34 am to
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So without seeing the full, unredacted email that the guy sent to ICE, then I'm going to be skeptical about whether something was omitted from what was quoted because it wouldn't have fit the narrative.

You also have to wonder if this was the only email sent? It very well could be the only email, or part of the email, Streever's attorney sent to the media.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140189 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:38 am to
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Why would they purposely not quote the worst part of the emails?
It depends on who "they" are. Who released the contents?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140189 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:39 am to
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nothing in the X post sounded threatening
What/who was the source of the release?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36581 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:50 am to
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He sends her a personal email just like this guy did. Everything in the email is the same word for word except swapping the Minnesota ICE incident for her decision to get her 10th abortion. Illegal or not?


Unless this guy is some kind of spiritual leader then you don’t have an argument. Again context matters.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28707 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:51 am to
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This bothers me. Not as much as 40 million people being encouraged by federal politicians to break federal law, but still it bothers me.




"You will never know peace" is a pretty clear threat and it doesn't botherme in the least that it was trwated as such Far worse than anything the typical J6 victim did.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36581 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:53 am to
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Ahh, I see the confusion. You don't know the legal definition of "threat." Hell, it looks like you don't even know the colloquial definition You can either look it up and come back here and apologize for your stupidity, or just remain ignorant. Choice is yours.


Threats are intended to intimidate. Which this was clearly his objective and why he sent them via direct communication although he was smart enough to allow some plausible deniability in the eyes of the obtuse or gullible.

Imagine he sent the same message to your wife or child…would you be concerned or looking over your shoulder? Be honest.

That’s how you know it’s a threat.

This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 10:56 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38692 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:55 am to
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Streever was on a trip to Finland with his 7-year-old daughter last month when two officers showed up to his home and handed his wife a warning notice informing him that an email he sent months earlier was considered a threat.

There's some thick irony here.

This dude that was speaking out against the tactics deployed to apprehend illegal immigrants, was vacationing with his kid in one of the WHITEST nations on GOD's blue earth.

ETA: Was there some esoteric reason that he didn't take his kid to marvel at the wonderful vistas in Mogadishu, Mosul or Beijing?
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 10:58 am
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12318 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:56 am to
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Unless this guy is some kind of spiritual leader then you don’t have an argument.

Different set of Amendments apply to spiritual leaders?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12318 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:57 am to
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"You will never know peace" is a pretty clear threat

So you agree that, if I tell people walking into to an abortion clinic “you will never know peace,” I should be arrested?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36581 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:58 am to
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Different set of Amendments apply to spiritual leaders?


If a scuba instructor asks if you want to “swim with the fishes” is that the same thing as a mafia member to whom you owe money?

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