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Until Islam goes through it's own Reformation, it has no place in the Western world

Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:48 am
Liberals, you are complicit in allowing this to happen. You are a co-conspirator in Islam's attempt to destroy Western civilization.

Whether or not you will admit it, even though you think you're not at war with Islam; Islam is at war with you. In case you haven't noticed, eye witnesses to these events have told ZERO instances of these savages asking what the victim's political leanings are before they're killed. They're killing indiscriminately. It's not about politics no matter how much you want it make it that way. You either submit to Allah, or you die. It really is that simple.

These barbarians think they have divine permission to do what they're doing. They believe they have a right to rape little girls and boys. They believe they have a right to infiltrate our society using deceit to do so (taqiyya anyone?). It's their firmest belief that they have permission to kill you if you do not submit to Allah.

Don't take my word for it. Please don't believe Hannity when he tells you this. Please don't listen to Savage when he rants about the evils of Islam. Pick up the Koran and read it for yourself. Don't call me or those mentioned above a liar. Call the prophet Mohammad a liar because he claims those words and directives were the inspired words of Allah. Read it for yourself.

Until the majority Muslim nations themselves start policing this nonsense inside their own borders, NOTHING is going to change. Until the "moderate" Muslims that have settled in Western nations take to the streets and rout these savages out of their own neighborhoods and Mosques; nothing will change. Until these nations take a proactive approach in stamping out radicalized and extremist Muslims, Bamarep would have ZERO problem isolating these nations and let them collapse in on themselves. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Syria, Pakistan and many others; frick THEM ALL. Don't buy their oil, don't sell them arms, pull our troops out of their lands. Let them fend for themselves. We don't need their oil. Yes, I understand this is directly contradictory to the crowing I was doing last week about all of the business deals Trump made with the Arabs. I hope Trump uses that leverage to force these barbarians into doing what they promised him and the rest of the world they'd do.

I don't want to see them caning homosexuals in the street. I want to see them hanging the Imams that are preaching and spreading this hate. Don't tell me shite, show me you're serious about stopping this nonsense.

Throughout what history liberals haven't taken out of the books yet, men have had to do unspeakable things to preserve our way of life. I'm afraid those times may visit us once again. We may not want to be at war with Islam, but Islam is clearly at war with us. And, thanks to liberals and political correctness; Islam is winning.

Stay woke baws!

Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12387 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:50 am to
The religion was found on violence. This is all they know.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:51 am to
You are so brave for posting this on a 95% conservative political board.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53010 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:51 am to
Stop being islamophobic, only 50% of Muslims are terrorists
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

You are so brave for posting this on a 95% conservative political board.


So I guess you agree with the OP since you didn't state otherwise?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67953 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:54 am to
Reformation is the only way.

This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:54 am to
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weagle99



Part of the problem.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24588 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:55 am to
I will completely agree with this.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24588 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:59 am to
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You are so brave for posting this on a 95% conservative political board.


I feel this way about a lot of the threads here, but he's completely right. They don't deserve a spot in our history books because they haven't done anything worth mentioning except remembering terror attacks. And that just can't happen for society to progress
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41682 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:05 am to
I would say that until Islam actually changes its holy books and wipes out its history, it will be incapable of a reformation.

The Protestant Reformation was all about going back to the original text of the Bible and rejecting the tradition and decisions of uninspired men that have crept in over the 1500 years since Christ. The reformers were "starting over", so to speak, by going back to the original source of the faith.

If Islam did the same thing, a reformation would produce more "extremists", as Muslims started believing and behaving like Muhammed.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125415 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:06 am to
We need to stop the salafist an wahhabism
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58032 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:08 am to
quote:

You are so brave for posting this on a 95% conservative political board.


Wait, I was under the impression that message boards were a place to post messages?
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17997 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:09 am to
We need to give them more time to assimilate. We need to show solidarity and love.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:12 am to
Youre such a dingbat. Why dont you do something about it?

"According to a newer estimate done in 2016, there were 3.3 million Muslims living in the United States, about 1% of the total U.S. population. American Muslims come from various backgrounds and, according to a 2009 Gallup poll, are one of the most racially diverse religious groups in the United States."

3.3 million of them here. Go get started.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Until Islam goes through it's own Reformation, it has no place in the Western world
You are so brave for posting this on a 95% conservative political board.


Dude lays it out for a debate to ensue and you post air.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49296 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:19 am to
Yeah this isn't Islam vs the West, it's ISIS vs the West. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world and it's a rather small size of which are part of ISIS. Hell most people who are killed in ISIS attacks are Muslims in the Middle East. There are Muslims living over there fighting ISIS. There are Muslims in our own military as well. But, for whatever reason you have this irrational fear.
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
731 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:19 am to
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The Protestant Reformation was all about going back to the original text of the Bible and rejecting the tradition and decisions of uninspired men that have crept in over the 1500 years since Christ. The reformers were "starting over", so to speak, by going back to the original source of the faith.


Most of this is anti-Catholic bait, and not worth arguing about, but one point you have inadvertently made WRT a "reformation" in Islam is that wholesale reform will never be possible because there is no "authority" for the Muslim to reform or to reform in contrast of.

At various points in their history power and a loose primacy has passed from Saudi to Ottoman Turk, to Cairo, to Baghdad and on and on. There is no pope to follow or pope to break from. There is only chaos and a perfect breeding ground for terrorism as a tribute to Mo' and Al.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:22 am to
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wholesale reform will never be possible because there is no "authority" for the Muslim to reform or to reform in contrast of.


Here's the issue. And that's because the Koran is the "inscripturation" of Allah to the Muslim. And it's hard to reform away the passages of the Koran where violence is a proper part of the religion.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
731 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:23 am to
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It's ISIS vs the west


You can't think that this stuff is isolated only to ISIS and the post Cold War era, can you? This isn't some "recent" development. You are arguing that this is a new kind of thing for the Islamic world.

The Armenians disagree. So do the Turks who issued a Fatwah for Jihad in WWI.

So do the Mahdi in late 1800's Sudan. The Barbary Pirates weren't kind to non Muslims. Algerian extremists were quite happy to kill in the name of Islam.

All of these happened after 1800 but before/at the time of Israel's founding. Care to explain your comments?

Would you like to go back to before the 1800's? The story doesn't get much better, and Mo's people use him an awful lot to justify their actions.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:24 am to
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Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Syria, Pakistan and many others; frick THEM ALL. Don't buy their oil, don't sell them arms, pull our troops out of their lands.


You know, conservative officials, oil company CEOs and congresspeoples are more complicit than liberals. I know this doesnt fit your narrative but its true.

Oil companies have been buying alternative patents for 50 years so that no one can hurt their business with more efficient ideas.

The Saudis, of course, gain the most from it.

When Bush Sr had us go to Kuwait, guess who owned those oil fields?

When Bush Jr decided that we needed to invoke "freedom" in the middle east, he also insured the Saudis had no competition.

Rumsfeld, bush, abrams, reagan..etc. They all gave arms to the middle east.

Btw not saying the dems didnt also but the numbers pale in comparison.

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They believe they have a right to rape little girls and boys. 


Must have missed that chapter.

quote:

Don't take my word for it.


Most people dont. You're safe there.



Dude. Get off your soap box and stfu. You wanna be a hero but you're just a melodramatic douchebag
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