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re: United Methodist Church special session this week
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:24 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:24 pm to TeLeFaWx
God's word is true, pertinent, and infallible. Whether every word in any version of what we call The Bible is truly God's word is the question. And whether any direction in the Bible was intended for all time and every occasion.
My life has taught me that there are many folks who SAY they believe the Bible is God's Word and inerrant, but very very few that really do. Their actions suggest otherwise. They believe whatever part of the Bible they want to emphasize and ignore many many directives and principles that are uncomfortable to them.
My life has taught me that there are many folks who SAY they believe the Bible is God's Word and inerrant, but very very few that really do. Their actions suggest otherwise. They believe whatever part of the Bible they want to emphasize and ignore many many directives and principles that are uncomfortable to them.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:37 pm to GAAtty70
God gives each of us free will, it is ours to do as we see fit.
You have every right to not believe and reject God and the Holy Bible.
This thread is addressing a group of people not nearly as honest as you are.
They say that they are believers but by their action they are not. Yes actions can be judged but not people. These individuals are not lost, but are on the road to destruction if they do not repent and reject this ideology that they are pushing. Satan always comes at you as the thing you most desire.
I would encourage you to read the scriptures and investigate Gods love for you and Christ life and death on the cross as a man and resurrection, to atone for all our sins, this includes everyone on this earth. Which if you choose will lead you to accepting him as your lord and savior and receiving eternal life with God in heaven. You are a soul temporarily in a human body and that soul will live forever in heaven or hell as you choose.
You have every right to not believe and reject God and the Holy Bible.
This thread is addressing a group of people not nearly as honest as you are.
They say that they are believers but by their action they are not. Yes actions can be judged but not people. These individuals are not lost, but are on the road to destruction if they do not repent and reject this ideology that they are pushing. Satan always comes at you as the thing you most desire.
I would encourage you to read the scriptures and investigate Gods love for you and Christ life and death on the cross as a man and resurrection, to atone for all our sins, this includes everyone on this earth. Which if you choose will lead you to accepting him as your lord and savior and receiving eternal life with God in heaven. You are a soul temporarily in a human body and that soul will live forever in heaven or hell as you choose.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:21 pm to Little Trump
No doubt the one church plan will pass.
I’m already planning which churches I will try on for size.
I’m already planning which churches I will try on for size.
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:46 pm to GeorgeWest
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God's word is true, pertinent, and infallible. Whether every word in any version of what we call The Bible is truly God's word is the question. And whether any direction in the Bible was intended for all time and every occasion.
My life has taught me that there are many folks who SAY they believe the Bible is God's Word and inerrant, but very very few that really do. Their actions suggest otherwise. They believe whatever part of the Bible they want to emphasize and ignore many many directives and principles that are uncomfortable to them.
Yeah. I get what you’re saying. I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:23 am to tilco
The churches endless embrace of the other destroyed its identity. It forgot what it stood for in an effort to appease everyone.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:25 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Yes
So they should what? Ignore them? Not reach out to them? Not try to spread the Gospel to them? Spit at them?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:30 am to tilco
quote:Welcoming everyone to attend church is one thing. Refusing to condemn sin for what it is is another.
I’m 37 and have been an Episcopalian all my life. Having kids and becoming aware of the world we live in has me finally questioning shite. I used to think the “we welcome all” attitude of the Church was a good thing. Now I’m not so sure.
Matthew 18 provides a template for how the Church is supposed to deal with sin, which implies that it needs to be dealt with, not accepted as permissible. One of the traditional marks of a true church is that it administers discipline as needed with the intent to save the soul of the sinner. A church that refuses to punish sin is not a true church.
That being said, a person who is confronted with their sin, acknowledges that they have sinned and repents of it, should be welcomed back into the body of believers. The issue here is that sin isn't dealt with and the sinners are not convicted of their sin which may lead to their damnation. Churches that refuse to punish sin are like parents who refuse to punish disobedience in their children: their "kindness" is actually harmful long-term to the one who needs the discipline.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:50 am to SSpaniel
quote:Yeah - I am confused how he considers mission work "social justice". He must have missed the part in Matthew describing the great commission. We also provide meals for the homeless at one of the parks in inner city Jackson (not just our Church but several churches rotate doing it on Sundays). I shouldn't even mention that as it is probably social justice to him. Go figure!
Yes
So they should what? Ignore them? Not reach out to them? Not try to spread the Gospel to them? Spit at them?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:04 am to SSpaniel
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So they should what? Ignore them? Not reach out to them? Not try to spread the Gospel to them? Spit at them?
Aiding & abetting is the way to go?
How is giving illegals money, phones, shelter, food, etc. a good thing?
Doesn’t that just encourage more people to break our laws?
These illegals are largely not poor pitiful starving people. Every time you see them they’re holdin smart phones and a bunch of them - all of the women - are fat.
Many of them are coming here to take advantage of our welfare system.
Churches should provide spiritual services and maybe transportation, but anything else is counterproductive and borderline illegal.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:07 am to SSpaniel
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The good thing about being Southern Baptist
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Oxymoron
quote:He means that living a disciplined lifestyle grounded in time-tested principles just isn't cool anymore. Come on man. Be there or be square. Nobody's getting zapped if they get a little on the side or take a walk on the wild side. Just look around... Go ahead.... it's ok... everybody's doing it....
How so, exactly?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:46 am to SirWinston
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Jesus would sky scream and let Brown people move here illegally, have free healthcare and education from our tax dollars and proceed to outbreed us at a pace to where we become socialist in another 30 years
If you read the Bible, Jesus didn’t like poor people. He hung out with irs agents and commercial fishermen and he made the blind bums dig around in the dirt to find his spit and get their sight back
Jesus was a republican
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:51 am to Eli Goldfinger
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How is giving illegals
They are all illegal, huh? Every Hispanic in the Hispanic community is illegal?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:54 am to SSpaniel
It will be sad to witness the UMC disintegrate this week.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 9:56 am to el Gaucho
quote:"Religion must begin to recognize entrepreneurship for what it is—a vocation. The ability to succeed in business, stock trading, or investment banking is a talent. Like other gifts, it should not be squandered, but used to its fullest for the glory of God. Critics link capitalism with greed, yet the fundamental nature of the entrepreneurial vocation is to focus on the needs of customers. To succeed, the entrepreneur must serve others." LINK
If you read the Bible, Jesus didn’t like poor people. He hung out with irs agents and commercial fishermen and he made the blind bums dig around in the dirt to find his spit and get their sight back
Jesus was a republican
Zig Ziglar: "You can get everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want."
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:18 am to tigerpawl
Lydia was an entrepreneur and not called to repent of that. The tax collectors weren’t told to quit their jobs but to stop taking more than they were assigned to take.
Property rights and capitalistic philosophy dominate the scriptures from an economic standpoint. The “communism” of Acts was actually charitable and free giving, not forced redistribution of wealth. Even the slaying of Ananias and Saphira was due to fraud and lying, not their desire to profit from selling their property.
Property rights and capitalistic philosophy dominate the scriptures from an economic standpoint. The “communism” of Acts was actually charitable and free giving, not forced redistribution of wealth. Even the slaying of Ananias and Saphira was due to fraud and lying, not their desire to profit from selling their property.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:44 am to SSpaniel
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They are all illegal, huh? Every Hispanic in the Hispanic community is illegal?
We both know that many (most) are.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:47 am to SSpaniel
quote:I am sure there are some there but there is a trailer park in the center of town that is all Hispanic. Been there 30 years that I am aware of. Maybe they have green cards or some other work visa but I’m not really sure. They mostly work at the two chicken plants. All the local leo knows it’s there as well as ICE. Nothing wrong with offering a free health screening and giving the kids something to open Christmas morning.
They are all illegal, huh? Every Hispanic in the Hispanic community is illegal?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:07 am to I B Freeman
quote:Independent Methodist Church has been around since the merger of the white Methodist Churches and the black Methodist Churches to form the United Methodist Church (1968). Not familiar with the Southern Methodist Church. The Independents were of the white Methodist Church but chose to remain that way at the time of the merger. I think that's the way it happened.
Does the Southern Methodist Church still exists? It spun off from UMC a long time ago. There used to be one nearby as recently as 15 years ago but it closed.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:09 am to Diamondawg
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Nothing wrong with offering a free health screening and giving the kids something to open Christmas morning.
Better watch it. You are aiding and abetting known criminals and might be subjecting yourself to legal action.
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