re: United Methodist Church closing 26 churches in Alabama: declining attendance

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It could have been any of the thousands of types of birds, but for some reason they chose the bird of Ishtar - the bird that represented their main female goddess of the the entire Fertile Crescent for a few thousand years that everyone knew about? You think that is a coincidence? I don’t.

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The New Testament refers to the Spirit as masculine. That's weird considering it's supposed to be female according to your view.

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So you’re calling Origen a liar. He was quoting a verse from the Gospel of the Hebrews that he disagreed with. You’re saying he made it up? You think he fabricated something just to have something to talk shite about?

Origen didn’t support that idea from the Gospel of the Hebrews. You’d know that if you actually read the subject matter.

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I hope Origen isn't your primary source for this, because Origen had all sorts of strange views that didn't comport with Christian orthodoxy. It's why he was condemned as a heretic a few centuries after his death. He believed things like the pre-existence of the soul.

Conspiracy theorists love to take the minority report and hold it up as the truth that everyone else was trying to suppress.

The Methodists might as well just dissolve for how far away from the plot they have gone.

The Wesley bro’s bones are spinning faster that Iran’s centrifuges…

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Conspiracy theorists love to take the minority report and hold it up as the truth that everyone else was trying to suppress.

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It's a violation of Occams Razor.

They fight so hard for ridiculous claims.

They are immune to logic, insisting things with no evidence are the truth, and that what is documented is only a cover up.

Origen believed something about Jesus being the first soul, which was weird, culty, and completely in opposition to John 1:1-2.

But anyone making such statements has already abandoned facts, logic, and honesty.

There isn't much room for debate when someone thinks all major sources are a cover up.

that's absolute bullschit doctrine for protestants is like herding cats. it all depends on what white trash preacher is your pastor. catholics recite the nicene creed at every mass which lays out precisely what we believe.

here enlighten yourself, you might actually save your soul!

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

that's worked for 1700 years your religion is 10 minutes old and dying on the vine hence the thread title "26 methodist church closings in alabama"

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I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

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Be sure to tell protestants this doesn't mean the real "catholic" church in their town. I've never heard a priest berate a protestant church in my life as a catholic. Before I became catholic the only people who berated catholics were protestant congregants. Some were in my family. In regard to disparaging catholics, I can't speak to all the churches with the pastors from all the scattered bible colleges.

We have more problems with hatred from Islam towards Christianity in this world.

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On the contrary, our church attendance has tripled since disaffiliating from the UNITED Methodist conference.

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What's the national trend, though?

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the translation of the bible into english was a political act not the divinely inspired work of god.

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the only people who berated catholics were protestant congregants

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I love when they hold their nose up to Catholics. “Oh no, we don’t drink alcohol, we are Christian.” It’s as if they don’t remember Jesus turned water into wine and that Jesus is the fruit of the vine, and that he and his followers and all of Israel drank wine. It was a staple beverage and that is historic fact.

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Protestants are expected to know what they believe and defend it

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And what a Protestant knows and believes varies from Protestant to Protestant.