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United Airlines DEI rumblings

Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18144 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:04 pm
A United plane was totaled on July 29 after a hard landing.

An anonymous source has come forward and said that the co-pilot of that plane was a former flight attendant who was hired as a pilot through DEI initiatives despite failing simulator training.

Ashley St. Clair is asking the tough questions

LINK

Oh, and Ashley St. Clair.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:10 pm to
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An anonymous source has come forward and said that the co-pilot of that plane was a former flight attendant who was hired as a pilot through DEI initiatives despite failing simulator training.


I’m reminded of the 2004 Fantastic Four movie.

“He destroyed the simulator. I didn’t even think it was possible to do that.”
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Ashley St. Clair


Damn, she just needs a man who will buy her some pants. She don't have to wear those.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2318 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:15 pm to
Totaled? I think that aircraft is already back flying. It's currently getting the new United livery in the paint shop, but it has been repaired and not scraped
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119029 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:16 pm to
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Ashley St. Clair


So fine.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7396 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:19 pm to
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An anonymous source


DEI advocates:

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164342 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:21 pm to
I've been worried about this. A DEI pilot already caused a crash in 2019 when an unqualified terrible FO slammed a 767 into Trinity Bay, killing all 3 on board. It's only a matter of time before a passenger jet goes down the same way. Planes are amazing machines. Pilot error is by far the biggest issue these days.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7855 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:21 pm to
Expect to see more of this. Hell, we’ve had a female pilot put an F35 in the drink.

I am fine with seeing more of Ashley St. Clair too.
Posted by RichardPound
Member since Dec 2021
132 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:27 pm to
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Ashley St. Clair


Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:27 pm to
The competency of our pilots is why we don’t have Aeroflot style disasters where the black box shows that the pilot let his kid fly the plane.

We have stripped that in the name of “diversity”. Bodies are gonna stack up.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80232 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:28 pm to
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I've been worried about this


I fly every other week between United and SW and you can tell a stark difference between the pilots of the two groups.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:31 pm to
Also Ashley St. Clair in that thread:

"Was the #2 at the Denver hiring center also onboarded through DEI? Did she or did she not change fail grades for DEI hires because “it makes the numbers look bad”?

Did the instructor who failed this co-pilot ask corporate why they passed him?"
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:32 pm to
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Did the instructor who failed this co-pilot ask corporate why they passed him?"


I have a feeling they knew better than to ask hut kept a copy of the paperwork failing them.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26047 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:33 pm to
Not guilty
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11254 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:33 pm to
DEI with air traffic controllers is arguably an even larger issue.

Competency should always be the primary driver of hiring and management decisions.

People are going to die and they simply don't care as long as it advances their agenda.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30126 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:35 pm to
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A United plane was totaled on July 29 after a hard landing.



dayum, what is the insurance write off on one of those things?

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An anonymous source has come forward and said that the co-pilot of that plane was a former flight attendant who was hired as a pilot through DEI initiatives despite failing simulator training.


so typical today, yet scary, because people like her work in places they put people at risk
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:37 pm to
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DEI with air traffic controllers is probably an even bigger issue.


Truth.

ATCs are some of the most high stress jobs out there because, if you frick up, you potentially crash two planes together full of people in a major metro area.

In order to get more of the “right” people in those jobs, they had a total upheaval of the process which was used to hire them, which had good results, in order to get the results they wanted.

We are only seeing bits and pieces of the problems right now like near misses and planes touching wings. It isn’t going to get better.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45372 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:42 pm to



Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26548 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:43 pm to
What about spirit? Who should we be flyin?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10773 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:44 pm to
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to a bear, we all taste like chicken
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