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re: Unbelievable....regarding COVID-19 death stats
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:22 pm to the808bass
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:22 pm to the808bass
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Unless you think that there’s a significant percentage of the population who’ve tested positive.
They are counting the ones with no test just symptoms though.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:27 pm to Errerrerrwere
Everyone with a fever is getting a Covid diagnosis?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:30 pm to the808bass
Honestly anyone in a hospital at this point could get COVID even though they went in there without it.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:32 pm to Robin Masters
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This can’t be a significant number of people though.
That's a question that should be directed at Fauci and Birx and they should answer it. If they say they don't know the answer, they should be blasted.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:32 pm to deeprig9
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I think it could be more than half of the totals.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:34 pm to Korkstand
why laugh?
we have no idea what percentage of the totals it is.
we have no idea what percentage of the totals it is.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:35 pm to Veritas
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Saw it live, she definitely said it.
anyone have a video clip?
i wasn’t watching.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:36 pm to FlexDawg
There’s not enough tin foil in the world for you.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:36 pm to FlexDawg
I just assumed they had been counting this way. I am curious if they do the same with the seasonal flu.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:38 pm to beaverfever
The number that the CDC arrives at for flu deaths is based on a lot of things besides “this guy died from the flu” written on a chart. They look at hospital utilization trends, pneumonia deaths, etc.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:41 pm to beaverfever
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I am curious if they do the same with the seasonal flu.
nah, for that they use estimated numbers based off historical averages vs current year deaths for multiple other reasons.
the estimated CDC number is about 4 x’s the actual confirmed flu deaths so far this season.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:42 pm to FlexDawg
We record flu deaths the same way and no one gives a shite
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:45 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
I thought this was just assumed.
So if someone dies in a car accident and has COVID19 does that count?
So if someone dies in a car accident and has COVID19 does that count?
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:45 pm to FlexDawg
If you have cancer that is deemed terminal but you get drunk and drive and hit a tree, causing your death......is it not a death by car accident?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:45 pm to moneyg
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That's a question that should be directed at Fauci and Birx and they should answer it. If they say they don't know the answer, they should be blasted.
If they don't know, that is precisely why the deaths should be documented that way, so that we have complete data on underlying conditions and morbidity.
But I'm just a social scientist.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:46 pm to Robin Masters
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This can’t be a significant number of people though.
What will be interesting to see, is how many fewer show dying from pneumonia and the regular old flu than average. If pneumonia and flu deaths, or any other associated causes of death plummet drastically this year, we’ll have our answer.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:47 pm to tigerfoot
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We record flu deaths the same way and no one gives a shite
no we don’t.
in real time if you know where to look, it is reported only as actual confirmed deaths cause by complications from the flu.
the CDC uses years and years of data to estimate the actual number based off several factors.
THAT number isn’t actual released until after the season is over and all data is collected and averaged out.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:48 pm to tigerfoot
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If you have cancer that is deemed terminal but you get drunk and drive and hit a tree, causing your death......is it not a death by car accident?
Probably (or at least hopefully) a better analogy is that when you have an HIV diagnosis and you die from pneumonia, HIV is the root cause.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:48 pm to tigerfoot
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If you have cancer that is deemed terminal but you get drunk and drive and hit a tree, causing your death......is it not a death by car accident?
If you have terminal cancer and are expected to live six months and you get covid19 and die in 15 days, what is the cause of death? Does covid19 have anything to do with it? Wouldn't you like to document it as covid19 until you determine the true relationship.
If we determine that covid19 (and the flue) basically accentuate the speed of underlying conditions, that's some good information to know.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:49 pm to Nutriaitch
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THAT number isn’t actual released until after the season is over and all data is collected and averaged out.
Do you think there won’t be a retrospective analysis of this?
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