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re: Ukraine Lost 100,000 men KIA according to EU's Ursula.

Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:31 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:31 am to
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frick Russia and it's butcher leaders.
...but not our own?

Why did Russia invade?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109244 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:42 am to
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It’s a shame the election was stolen. Those mamas would still have sons if Trump had been permitted to retain his seat.


But at least there are no more mean tweets.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73072 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:14 am to
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Yeah, don't hold your breath. Kinda funny really. We had been telling folks that if Trump hadn't won in 2016 we would have been at war with Russia under Hillary in less than a year. Then Trump gets in and there were no new wars for the first time in 40 fricking years. Then Biden gets in there and the next thing you know we are on the verge of WW3.


We were told for 5 years that Trump was going to get us into WW3.

Russia behaved.
North Korea behaved.
Most of the Middle East behaved.

Syria was the only problem.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96952 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:19 am to
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Ukraine Lost 100,000 men KIA according to EU's Ursula.


Excuse me while I question this number. Are we supposed to take the EU at face value when they’re busy policing free speech?

No guys, these numbers are real! Just trust us!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:23 am to
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Or if, ya know, Russia didn’t invade.


Don't worry, Mickey, your Ukranian-Nazi heroes will be just fine.


Meantime:

Fk Putin...

Fk Zelensky....

Fk Biden....

Fk the RINO's wanting to get us involved in this shitshow.

This is the ONLY correct position to take.
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:23 am to
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Daily Telegraph - In Russia support for the war drops dramatically, now only 25 percent of Russians support continuing the war.



No way UK media could be making up this number, just no way.
Posted by ruffleforeskin
Member since Dec 2021
681 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:34 am to
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Daily Telegraph - In Russia support for the war drops dramatically, now only 25 percent of Russians support continuing the war.



Nice source you have there...
>leaked report
>In British propaganda outlets
>N = 150 expat Russians
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18604 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:34 am to
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Pro-Kremlin propagandists, meanwhile, seized on (von der Leyen’s) screwup to push the claim that Ukraine was ‘hiding’ war losses from its citizens


It's fact. Ukraine and our western countries are hiding Ukraine's war losses. Just like Russia is hiding their own war losses. Does one have to be a pro-Kremlin propagandist to believe that Ukraine is hiding their losses?

Only dumbass countries would demoralize themselves during a war by reporting actual losses.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:10 am to
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The salient point is Russia would have no reason to "step out of line if Trump was president." The 4 years of Russia's relative passivity had less to do with fear of Trump than it did with Trump simply not provoking them.

I disagree.

Obama didn’t provoke Russia, but Russia walked all over him. Putin respected Trump, he didn’t respect Obama.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:11 am to
Anyone have an update on who is winning at this point? TIA
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:21 am to
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Obama didn’t provoke Russia
Au contraire mon ami.

Obama/Hillary interfered with Putin's Russian election.

Obama heated up Ukraine to the west talks including NATO membership.

Then team Obama backed a coup to unseat the legitimately elected but pro-Russia Ukrainian President, and installed a pro-Obama/Soros guy in his place.

That last bit led Russia to walk into Crimea.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by Big Bruce
Member since Nov 2022
72 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:27 am to
Over 600,000 killed in 4 years in American civil war.
Posted by I707U
Member since Nov 2022
67 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:40 am to
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Daily Telegraph - In Russia support for the war drops dramatically, now only 25 percent of Russians support continuing the war.

LINK


quote:

Eurocat


Useful idiot in full ignorant bliss. You rage about typical military tactic, then post completely unbelievable PSYOP sht nobody in their right mind would believe. "Leaked Kremlin internal polling"

This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:41 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102701 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:44 am to
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That better be her using "officers" inaccurately.


Either that or Ukraine just makes anyone an officer of some type kind of like how toward the end of WW2 Germany made anyone a member of the SS because it was seen as the elite unit but in reality it no longer was because so many good fighters had already died
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:54 am to
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Anyone have an update on who is winning at this point? TIA


American, Russian and Ukranian Politicians are the only winners that I know of.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63030 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:58 am to
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The EU corrected von der Leyen’s misstatement within a few minutes, to align with those estimates.

First, she said “killed” when the number refers to “casualties.” The latter term includes both killed and wounded. Historically, the wounded:killed ratio is about 3:1, though modern medicine was increased the ratio to something like 10:1 for developed countries. Thus, the KIA number per side is probably between 10,000 and 25,000.



So, we are just ignoring that she was using these numbers as justification for setting up an international court to prosecute Russia for war crimes?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26490 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:12 am to
If only the West and Russia hadn't convinced Ukraine to give up its nukes.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:31 am to
ISW fanboys seething at the news that Ukraine has lost more than 100K soldiers. they are calling it fake news. it can't be true, only Russians die from bullets.

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:37 am to
The numbers of casualties and KIA is astounding. The damage done to Ukraine is generational and will prevent them from capitalizing on the defense against Russia.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:47 am to
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It’s a shame the election was stolen. Those mamas would still have sons if Trump had been permitted to retain his seat.




This is true.
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