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re: UK mulling over training nurses to do surgery due to wait times

Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:18 pm to
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The rules mean doctors can be hit with tax rates of more than 90 per cent on their earnings - including their pension contributions - if they earn more than £110,000 a year.

Holy frick why would you ever practice there???
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:21 pm to
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Why give up nearly a decade of your life for minimal pay?

£110,000 for a surgeon?!

Anyone who goes into that is an idiot.

It isn’t financially worth it.


I’d honestly rather save myself 14 years and thousands of dollars of debt and start working at McDonalds at 18. I’d be much happier
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:23 pm to
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I’d honestly rather save myself 14 years and thousands of dollars of debt and start working at McDonalds at 18. I’d be much happier
Even if you didn’t have the debt, it wouldn’t be worth it.

You would start a whole decade behind the rest of the population for that.

Screw that.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11091 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:34 pm to
Why would you? Cap at $100k here and every competent MD is jumping on some regional corporate sales job for pharma or med devices making quadruple that. I love when government's disincentive quality.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57189 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 9:35 pm to
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The rules mean doctors can be hit with tax rates of more than 90 per cent on their earnings - including their pension contributions - if they earn more than £110,000 a year.
What. The. F*ck.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95271 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Holy frick why would you ever practice there???


You don't go there to start at this point unless you can't start anywhere else.

OTOH, this is probably a bunch of doctors already there who want to finish their careers where they are rather than have to completely re-establish themselves in another country which will recognize their credentials.

So you get people John Galting it a bit by keeping their earnings arbitrarily low to avoid that fiscal cliff.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5221 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:05 pm to
A two year workshop and they let nurse Betty carve you up like a Thanksgiving Turkey.

When can we bring this shite to the states already?!?!
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29727 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:38 am to
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Anything that helps older people to get the surgery they need more speedily has to be worth trying


Nothing scary about that comment. /s
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123879 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:01 am to
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Nurses will be trained to perform surgical procedures ... slash waiting times.
Nice
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:57 am to
This article is great because it opens up so many facets of discussion.

For instance, people have been going on and on (especially APNPs) about how doctors are overpaid yadda yadda.

Well what do you think happens when doctors are paid 120k/year?

Nurses are paid 32k/year and midlevels are now paid 50k/year.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21559 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:59 am to
So, in effect, all those studies that suggest the UK is way ahead of the US in healthcare are horseshite.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:01 am to
NHS Is an abomination yet the British people are enslaved by it
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:02 am to
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And by the way, if he woulda been in Canada, UK or Sweden, or the VA in the US there is a chance he is still waiting.


Well connected people never wait. Even in our system, if you happen to live in a town with a major FBS school, if a football player suffers an injury you can bet that they are getting an MRI within hours. Anyone else on private insurance/Medicare/Medcaid gets to go through the rehab / steroid injection routine and maybe they get one in a month. Maybe.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 8:02 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:04 am to
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Cap at $100k here and every competent MD is jumping on some regional corporate sales job for pharma or med devices making quadruple that.


Screw that. I would just go back and learn how to fix luxury cars or hybrids and start a first class auto repair shop so I could fix something that society values more than people.
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