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re: UHC exec killer wasn’t read rights before questioning and warranties search conducted?

Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10420 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:40 pm to
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Rude.


Not rude.

What do you think it means?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38619 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:41 pm to
How many would go for an AI Jury? Given that our current system is becoming dysfunctional, why not?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58998 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:43 pm to
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4cubbies has posted 63 times in just this thread alone. Sixty three!!

Should I be flattered or creeped out that you counted these? Interesting use of your time.


As I argue with strangers about things that won’t change as a result of these arguments…
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58998 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:44 pm to
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What do you think it means?


I’ve only ever heard it used in a derogatory manner. Usually as justification to disregard someone.
Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14663 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:51 pm to
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And knowledge of laws is how this is determined? It has nothing to do with evidence or testimony?



Ignorance of the law is not a defense.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10420 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 11:34 pm to
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I’ve only ever heard it used in a derogatory manner. Usually as justification to disregard someone.


Nah.

At least in my part of the world in the 1970s growing up, if a kid (small kid, kindergarten, 1st grade maybe) did something that was known to be against the rules, somebody else would call them out by saying "Ah-woo-woo," usually followed by, "IIIIII'mm tellllllin'."

More than likely it started out as saying "Oooooooo, I'm telling," but you know how kids are. In the mid 1970s in Alabama, it was "Ah-woo-woo." (With the emphasis on the 2nd "woo.")

As in:

Joe: "Gimmie your chocolate milk!"

Suzie: "Naw. Get your own, this is mine!"

(Joe takes the chocolate milk and starts walking back to his desk with it)

Suzie (and probably 1-2 onlookers as well): "Ah-woo-woo, IIIII'mmm Tellllllin'!"

Not a great example because usually an infraction inviting an Ah-woo-woo response was of a more scandalous nature and committed without any adults around in the immediate vicinity, but you get the idea.

Probably a better example might be two boys hovering over a page depicting a nude woman torn out of one of their dad's Playboys on the playground after school. Another kid walks by and sees what they are looking at and the colloquial exclamation in question as well as the promise to inform the proper adult authorities ensues.

Why did I type it in the post above? Because I started a thread about the SFP-cubbies alter conspiracy theory and was told quickly that I was violating board rules and could be banned just for bringing it up.

No one said Ah-woo-woo, but they said the same thing without using the word.

So I was just joining in. Note, however, I did not promise to tell, nor will I. I'm no snitch.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 11:40 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21881 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:20 am to
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Minutes after police approached Luigi Mangione in a Pennsylvania McDonald's, he told an officer he didn't want to talk


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a gun and diary officers say they found in his backpack when he was arrested Dec. 9, 2024, in Altoona, Pennsylvania.



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Felony Arrest in a Public Place
Law enforcement does not need a warrant for a felony arrest in a public place, even if the arresting officer has time to get a warrant. If the officer has probable cause that the suspect committed a crime, the officer may make a valid arrest.

Felony arrests in places not open to the public generally require a warrant. Typically, a police officer cannot enter a suspect’s home and arrest them without a warrant. But, if the officer is in hot pursuit of a fleeing felon, they may enter a residence without a warrant.



There are all kinds of exceptions to the warrant requirement for searches. In this case he was arrested in a public space for a felony, so the search of his backpack does not require a warrant.

As for reading him his Miranda rights, it all depends on when they arrested him and what he said voluntarily when. Miranda rights do not have to read at the time of the arrest, but only before questioning after an arrest. That's an important distinction. If the guy was talking to them before they arrested him and before he was read his Miranda rights, all that is permissible. It doesn't matter if he said he didn't want to talk, he did talk.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2911 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:51 am to
You do not have a right to not be identified. They can continue to ask you questions and detain you to identify you. If you give them a name, they can hold you to confirm it.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37691 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:05 am to
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Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed.


Sounds like he was interested in answering, seeing as he was as answering.


Amazing how hard it is for you to use logic.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33355 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Should I be flattered

No one should be flattered that they keep pumping a dumb thread with random thoughts, just to keep the thread going

Its very SFP like. And probably the reason SFP calls this alter one of the more "intelligent" posters on here, Because he cant help but recognize the similarities

I dont do AI, but it would be interesting to rum a comparison of the two scrren names and see what degree of similarities there are between the two?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16179 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:07 pm to
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My friend called me this morning as soon as my eyes opened to debrief this but I actually hadn’t heard about it yet. Should make for a spirited legal analysis.


Your friend, called you on an early Saturday morning, to go into a discussion about the United Health Care CEO killer???? And you got up and engaged in the conversation????

Holy hell. You folks are literally insane. Literally. Full on looney tunes.
Posted by LakeCityTiger128
Member since Dec 2025
7 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:46 pm to
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4cubbies


I just wanted to say that I have been reading the Political Board for a good while now, and finally signed up just to tell you that I admire you. You are one hell of a troll on here. I used to think that you were serious, but you go too far trying to play the acting dumb part. Now, if you aren't a troll, you are the exact example of why Women shouldn't be in power. You use no logic and make decision strictly based upon emotions/feelings, and to virtue signal. You use no logic or critical analysis. But, like I said, I think you are a fantastic troll.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5654 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:51 pm to
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Video shows Luigi Mangione said he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions

NEW YORK — Minutes after police approached Luigi Mangione in a Pennsylvania McDonald's, he told an officer he didn't want to talk, according to video and testimony at a court hearing Thursday for the man charged with killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.

The exchanges have been scrutinized this week at a lengthy New York court hearing as Mangione's lawyers try to keep some key evidence from being presented at his murder trial, including his statements to police and a gun and diary officers say they found in his backpack when he was arrested Dec. 9, 2024, in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

Mangione's lawyers argue that his statements aren't fair game for trial because officers asked questions before reading his rights. The defense says the contents of his backpack should be excluded because police didn't get a warrant before searching it.




I got a two word solution to this malfeasance. GEN POP...
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58998 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:00 pm to
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Your friend, called you on an early Saturday morning, to go into a discussion about the United Health Care CEO killer???? And you got up and engaged in the conversation????


do you want to know what she called me about this morning?

Good grief. Don’t you people have friends? Are y’all super serious 24/7?

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Holy hell. You folks are literally insane. Literally. Full on looney tunes.


Likewise.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:01 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58998 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:04 pm to
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You use no logic and make decision strictly based upon emotions/feelings, and to virtue signal.


Says the person who created an account just to announce his displeasure. I am certain the irony is lost you.

Thanks for the feedback.

@Chicken, when can I start getting a cut of ad revenue? Look at the traffic and engagement I’m driving here!
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22994 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:07 pm to
Saying you don’t want to talk is fine. In fact, it indicates that you understand that you don’t have to talk. But then continuing to talk without a gun to your head is called voluntarily talking.

It doesn’t matter if the cops kept questioning. He had the option to say nothing and he didn’t do that. His choice.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16179 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:12 pm to
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Good grief. Don’t you people have friends? Are y’all super serious 24/7?


Yes. We do normal friend stuff. Not wake each other up on a Saturday talking about the United Health Care CEO murder. That is psychotic.

This is why you folks are always griping, screaming, and protesting. You keep each other needlessly wound up about stupid shite.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23012 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:13 pm to
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She works in healthcare admin. Maybe she’s worried about a copycat?


Why would she confide in you? You’re exactly the type of leftist who would shoot an innocent person because of their political beliefs.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8946 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:15 pm to
Nope.

You can request to see your lawyer.

If you are stupid past that…..too bad.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58998 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Yes. We do normal friend stuff. Not wake each other up on a Saturday talking about the United Health Care CEO murder. That is psychotic.


Noted.

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This is why you folks are always griping, screaming, and protesting. You keep each other needlessly wound up about stupid shite.
you do realize this is your second post griping and complaining about what I talk about with my friend, right?

This has got to be some sort of joke.
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