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re: UC makes landmark decision to drop ACT and SAT requirement for admission

Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:06 am to
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:06 am to
LINK

THE 45 COMMUNIST GOALS AS READ INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, 1963

quote:

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


I threw in #15 for good measure.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:09 am to
They are doing this so that they can put more weight into more immeasurable qualities, such as political leanings, race, or donor status.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8965 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:09 am to
I finished a project we had won on MacDill AFB in Tampa. Everything in the drawings were wrong. The Government was at a level typical for the government. "We can't change it ....26 Officer's signed off on the project."

General was thereto cut the ribbon. "Who built this?" "I did." "Notice anything wrong?" "All your drawings and plans were wrong, we did the best we could" "OK, who designed this?" Sargent, "Sorry sir, she left the Air Force and moved north into a private practice." "Where did she graduate school?" I said ..."MIT, and that education was a terrible thing to waste."

When you have the likes of AOC, with an economics degree, she has no capability in using. It's obvious that we indeed walk the streets with educated morons.
Posted by LonesomeCowboy
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:19 am to
It's going to be interesting how they evaluate the quality of different high schools and applicants’ resume if no new assessment is put in place.

How would you compare someone with a 4.1 from a magnet school compare to someone with a 4.6 with from an awful school?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:25 am to
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How would you compare someone with a 4.1 from a magnet school compare to someone with a 4.6 with from an awful school?


GPA won't be as important as skin color.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:28 am to
The argument I have heard in favor of this horseshite was “ACT / SAT scores were a barrier to entry that will hurt the schools’ ability to do huge online classes this fall.”

As in expectations that having far more slots than normal would be a problem if social distancing was preventing new people from standardized tests.


But if the UC system were opening the floodgates, wouldn’t anyone currently attending college anywhere in the state be looking to transfer into a UC school if this were the case?

UC whatever is worth more on a diploma than Chico State.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:30 am to
I assume they split applications into tranches by race, and then sort by gpa.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:33 am to
That would be illuminating to see.

Assuming California is on a 5 point scale, when honors / AP points are included, I be the cutoff for Asians is about a 4.5 while the cutoff for blacks and Hispanics is in the high 2s.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:35 am to
How do they choose the ratios though? Do they want the class to resemble the demographics in California?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:38 am to
I’m sure they have “magic” ratios they want to meet in which “under represented” groups get a higher percentage of slots than groups which aren’t “disadvantaged.”

Same kind of shite the Ivy League uses or used to prevent too many of one group, like Asians or Jews, from getting admitted.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:48 am to
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I be the cutoff for Asians is about a 4.5 while the cutoff for blacks and Hispanics is in the high 2s.



a bell curve for asians

a bell curve for blacks

a bell cure for whites


Segregation is back!!
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75760 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:53 am to
They will treat it like Ole Miss and State do. Both schools are forced to have insanely low entrance requirements, a lot of people that shouldn't get in do. But most of the first year courses are made very difficult to weed out the ones who have no business being there.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:58 am to
California to me is basically the ultimate conclusion of the dominance of the Left in America. These people are relentless with their bullshite.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:59 am to
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But most of the first year courses are made very difficult to weed out the ones who have no business being there.



oh just wait, next they will work on equalizing graduation rates

they've already done in high school, that is how we have high school grads who are illiterate
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78062 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Now we have LSU shaped swimming pools and students going into lifelong debt to pay for bloated administrative salaries
Life long debt to go to LSU? No.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2320 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:06 pm to
I’d anticipate this exactly. In order to keep graduation rates at something near normal historical levels required levels of achievement will go down.

This lowering of standards though can only happen though in majors that are largely subjective...arts, social justice studies, etc. I can’t see how it would work though in STEM majors...those with objective right or wrong answers.

Because if it does the outcome is predictable. No legitimate business will hire engineers from universities that do this. I’ve seen this in action already. Lots of places will not hire engineers from HBCUs for this precise reason, although you’ll never find that in written form of any kind. Why would a bottom line oriented business, which is all of them minus the government, carry someone who can’t and won’t ever be able to contribute?

So the end result of loosening entry standards will be an even larger glut of college graduates with useless degrees.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11789 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:07 pm to
I want to see what happens when a bunch of 800 SATs try to pass Statistics
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125344 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:08 pm to
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It's going to be interesting how they evaluate the quality of different high schools and applicants’ resume if no new assessment is put in place.


There’s going to be a new assessment.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:11 pm to
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This lowering of standards though can only happen though in majors that are largely subjective...arts, social justice studies, etc. I can’t see how it would work though in STEM majors...those with objective right or wrong answers.



Easy

You curve the scores.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9536 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Continuing to lower our education standards, I see.


California leads in all bad things. We just end up following those fools.
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