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re: Two Things Can Be True…

Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:15 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18835 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:15 am to
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broadband giveaways to ISPs.


So a fan of the infamous "net neutrality" mantra, which is akin to dei and climate change.

The good reason for "net neutrality" you dont block out the little entrepreneur from starting a business.

The REAL reason, you allow Netflix to buy massive bandwidth for a song.....and the ISP then has to raise rates to all of us to pay for it.

Want proof? The book deals that politicians sign, that no one buys, and everyone knows its a payoff. The new internet version, obama's mega deals to do programs on netflix no one watched or even remembered and he and the wife made a fortune off.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62798 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:16 am to
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AND, it can also be true that Trump’s DOJ is no different than Biden (maybe worse) as it pertains to Epstein, Trump has done virtually nothing with DOGE, Trump is being led around by Israel, and some Trump appointments (especially Bondi, Kash and Dan) are massive disappointments.


I don't believe any of these things is true.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:52 am to
There are likely many things you don’t think are true, that are in fact true. You have the right to be wrong, misguided, dishonest, hypocritical, and have the right to be correct.

Maybe you are correct here, maybe not. Maybe the truth is in the middle somewhere.

Undeniably, relative to the DOJ 3 Stooges, they have been disappointing relative to their own words, actions and promises prior to taking office, and in Bondi’s case, while in office.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62798 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:58 am to
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Undeniably, relative to the DOJ 3 Stooges, they have been disappointing relative to their own words, actions and promises prior to taking office, and in Bondi’s case, while in office.


I'm not convinced this is true at all. I'm certainly not going to base my opinion on anything Axios reports via "sources."
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:59 am to
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Trump has done virtually nothing with DOGE

Tens of thousands have been fired
The same with cut off from medicaid
The law requires that rescission bills had to be separate from the BBB
Elon didnt deliver like he promised. He claimed 2 trillion, so far we are only at 200 billion

It would help if MAGA people would just quit spreading the bullshite
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:11 pm to


I see the Woke Right Melt Bros have got there new talking points.

Here is your attention, now go beat that dick to some more rage porn from Xfluencers who are laughing all the way to the bank off retards like you.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35618 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:22 pm to
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That’s an intellectually dishonesty position. The better question is why so many just blindly adopt the latest move of Trump, even if it’s antithetical to his promises on the trail and antithetical to what you allegedly espoused 6 months ago.


My positions rarely change any more.

I'm against almost anything that Lindsey Graham and Mitch McTurtle agree upon. I was against getting involved in Israel's beef with Iran, and I still say we shouldn't have. I know the OBBB is a train wreck, bottom line, but understand that every bill is an Establishment Uniparty train wreck filled with pork- but I actually see the border security, tax on overtime and permanent Trump tax cuts will definitely benefit me bigly, so I take the good with the bad.

Trump has pissed me off on a lot of things. But I expected that. He has also surprised me in a good way on many things. But if he offers wide-swath amnesty for people who came to this country illegally just to pick crops Americans could be picking, then I'm out.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1982 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:22 pm to
I thought Trump was a joke when announced he was running in 2015. I was not into the intricacies of politics at the time and wasn't really listening to what he was saying. As he got bigger and won the nomination, went on to the general, etc. his style, campaign, even mannerisms was so unconventional. So much of what he said, how he said, his positions, etc. were considered a political death move using conventional wisdom.
Bottom line - he proved himself and he did it in a way that made the so-called experts look dumb.

That, imo, goes a long way in explaining why some believe he can do no wrong. It is also why some people like me aren't so quick to judge when it seems like Trump is doing something wrong. A recent example is Iran. I didn't particularly like the attack as I thought i t would/would lead to something bigger, and I certainly did not vote for that.
So there is an element here that his very unconventional approach and history with that approach creates the sort of lack of criticism and total fealty from some.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:07 pm to
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It's the 80/20 rule, right? If he's great 80% of the time that's better than the alternative.


That hasn't worked for 30 years, Trump's doj and fbi demonstrates we are not a functioning Republic.
It also shows the US is two tier justice system.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:22 pm to
That’s true.

It confuses me how the same people (and posters on here) that have called for release of the Epstein files, have properly looked at the circumstances and questioned the narrative, that heard Bondi talk about the evidence on her desk and the disgusting nature thereof, are all of the sudden viewing this as a nothing burger.

More to the point, it’s weird to me how these same people, largely people that infallibly believe in all Trump does, don’t see that the issue is not so much Epstein as it is the willingness to just bold face lie with no explanation or apology relative to past stance.

If they will lie about this, or not come out and apologize and admit they were wrong all along (Trump, Kash, Bondi and Dan), then how can you trust anything that they say?

That’s the larger issue, and frankly, it makes them the same as all the others.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6165 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Trump has done virtually nothing with DOGE

Not true. He ahs done what he legally can. The legislature has to act on this, they run the budget. They can not fund or fund.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Lots of disingenuous behavior among the MAGA crowd.

It can both be true that Trump has done a great job on the border, there is some really good stuff in the BBB, Kennedy is doing great things in health, DEI is on the ropes and many other things are going great and as promised by Trump on the campaign trail…..

AND, it can also be true that Trump’s DOJ is no different than Biden (maybe worse) as it pertains to Epstein, Trump has done virtually nothing with DOGE, Trump is being led around by Israel, and some Trump appointments (especially Bondi, Kash and Dan) are massive disappointments.

Trump has also kept many Biden era fluff going, like energy rebates and broadband giveaways to ISPs.

The arguments around whether Kamala would have been better are logical fallacies. Of course she would not.

That’s an intellectually dishonesty position. The better question is why so many just blindly adopt the latest move of Trump, even if it’s antithetical to his promises on the trail and antithetical to what you allegedly espoused 6 months ago.

I voted for Trump and still support him, but he’s certainly not perfect and has missed big on some major items.


So he's just a President then. Not much different than the ones before him.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:34 pm to
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That's why I've always said that both sides can technically have TDS.





MAGA's filthy with it.

With every lie, back peddle and broken promise. Trump deranges the ever loving frick out of MAGA.

The MAGA disillusionment is very, very real.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1147 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:40 pm to
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The arguments around whether Kamala would have been better are logical fallacies. Of course she would not.


When the spirit of the post is “in your face, MAGA!” this is absolutely NOT a logical fallacy.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3788 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Someone I agree with 80+% is not my enemy.

Someone I agree with only 10% of the time may not be my enemy either.

I simply don't have enemies. I try not to hate.
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