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re: Tucker talks to scientist who debunks climate change and origins of crude oil.

Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:46 pm to
I find the visceral close minded reaction to this topic by some people fascinating.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:54 pm to
10 or 20 years ago I started hearing from friends in oil & gas that “fossil fuels” weren’t all from dead plants and animals. Several times I was told the earth just produces oil. I had my doubts. I’ve been a believer for several years now after listening to experts telling me they could re open a well or drill in the same spot 10 years later and suck as much oil out of the ground as the first go. Pretty wild how we were lied to. I have a couple old books from the 1940s and 1950s assuring the reader that natural gas would be depleted by about 1970 and crude oil would be gone by 1985.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:57 pm to
Great interview, thank you for posting this. Love the scientist
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:02 pm to
I’ve always wondered how climate change folks explain the ice age.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:13 pm to
The term Fosil Fuel was created by Rockefeller. It was a term that sounded rare and price could be higher.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:15 pm to
Rain isn’t really evaporated and condensed falling H2O, it’s the tears of the sky gods.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:16 pm to
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10 or 20 years ago I started hearing from friends in oil & gas that “fossil fuels” weren’t all from dead plants and animals. Several times I was told the earth just produces oil. I had my doubts. I’ve been a believer for several years now after listening to experts telling me they could re open a well or drill in the same spot 10 years later and suck as much oil out of the ground as the first go. Pretty wild how we were lied to. I have a couple old books from the 1940s and 1950s assuring the reader that natural gas would be depleted by about 1970 and crude oil would be gone by 1985.


I don’t believe that people that are open to the idea of abiotic hydrocarbons are against the idea of biotic sources of hydrocarbons. At the current state of the earth it can mean and probably does mean both. The question is, what is the rate of abiotic and biotic hydrocarbon formation? What kind of pressures, temperatures and inorganic compound mixtures are required for hydrocarbons to be created abioticlly? If abiotic hydrocarbon production is happening on earth it’s probably happening 10, 20, 50 miles below our feet.

I mean the reason abiotic hydrocarbon creation cannot be discounted is simply because we see many other celestial bodies in our solar system with small and very large concentrations of hydrocarbons. There is no organic life on these planets and moons.
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Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:19 pm to
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The intelligent people know that it's not Dinosaur juice.


Had a very good smart friend who bought into the limited oil crisis world about to end et al. He learned that the earth did not stop making hydro carbons.

He stopped reading doom and gloomers!
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:23 pm to
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I don’t believe that people that are open to the idea of abiotic hydrocarbons are against the idea of biotic sources of hydrocarbons.


I think most that understand abiotic also realize biotic as well. I don’t think anyone is arguing against biotic production of hydrocarbons. Hell when you eat plant matter the gut bacteria make methane that you excrete in your farts. That’s pretty real to most people.
Posted by Gifman
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:40 pm to
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cwill


Al Gore isn’t going to frick you
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Gifman


This muppet thinks the climate change is the problem with the “science” in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 10:04 pm
Posted by reddy tiger
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:09 pm to
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debunks


You’re adorable.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:14 pm to
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I’ve always wondered how climate change folks explain the ice age.
Facts avoided which are inconvenient to the narrative should be a clue.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Certainly possible. It's Hydrogen and Carbon atoms I would think they are plentiful throughout the universe.


That's the point, it's high pressure of the required elements that produces hydrocarbons. This scientist says most of the oil is under the mantle and it works it's way towards the surface.



HMMMMM......

almost like it was designed to operate that way.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:56 am to
The Sun theory has always made sense, why would we assume we are making the greatest impact on our climate, when a thermonuclear ball a thousand times larger than our planet can say “let’s burn 0.1% hotter” and flash cook our oceans.

As for the shale/fossil fuel theory, I’ve heard it before. TL;DR on my thoughts is that if the theory is correct, we should be able to find hydrocarbons anywhere there is a ‘trapping’ geologic feature, regardless of age. But we don’t. Areas of heavy production also seem to line up such that if you were at the time and place in which the formation was being laid down, you would likely have been on a major coast.

Now, to counter what I said, I was also the mud engineer for a rig that drilled ~900 ft, hit a gas pocket, restarted the rig again too soon, and burnt it to the ground.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 1:11 am
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:08 am to
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Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:39 am to
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I’ve always wondered how climate change folks explain the ice age

I've often wondered how they think a planet can get out of an ice age without warming its atmosphere.

We are still recovering from the last ice age.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:49 am to
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watch the vid


Stop acting like an annoying third grader and watch the video
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:17 am to
Over time about half of scientific studies are eventually dubunked.

So whenever you see a new claim backed by a scientific study you should know that it has a 50/50 chance of being BS.


quote:

“The more I know, the more I realize I know nothing.”
- Socrates
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 7:26 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:36 am to
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The Sun theory has always made sense, why would we assume we are making the greatest impact on our climate, when a thermonuclear ball a thousand times larger than our planet can say “let’s burn 0.1% hotter” and flash cook our oceans.




Of course the "Sun theory" makes sense. If there were a dimmer switch connected to the sun you could directly control the climate here...

All kidding aside, the energy per unit area (i.e. flux) varies from the sun. Guess what? More energy from the sun hotter planet. Less energy, cooler planet. The good news is the surface of earth is covered in water and water is the great capacitor. In "weather" terminology water makes our planetary system temperate. Without water we would have very low low-temperatures and very high high-temperatures. It is the unique characteristics of water (compared to other atmospheric components) that allow it to absorb the sun's energy without a change in temperature (heat capacity) and it is the only constituent that goes though phase changes in our atmosphere which absorbs a lot of energy before a phase change (latent heat of fusion and evaporation).



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