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re: Tucker showing more proof he’s pro Islam

Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:05 pm to
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So Jews believe in Christ?


The first Christians were Jews. They saw themselves as Jews. They lived as Jews. It wasn’t until actual gentiles started becoming Christians that the religion began to diverge from Judaism. Haven’t you read Galatians?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:06 pm to
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I think it was a lineage/heritage demarcation


I suggest you read the Talmud
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5314 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:06 pm to
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The first Christians were Jews. They saw themselves as Jews. They lived as Jews. It wasn’t until actual gentiles started becoming Christians that the religion began to diverge from Judaism. Haven’t you read Galatians?


I suggest you read the Talmud.

The leaders of the Jewish faith did not think the same as you.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63551 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:07 pm to
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I suggest you read the Talmud


Which was written a few hundred years after the time period that we’re discussing.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63551 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:08 pm to
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I suggest you read the Talmud.


I have. And again, it was written a few hundred years after the time period that we’re discussing.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:08 pm to
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The leaders of the Jewish faith did not think the same as you.


So, it may be more of a perspective tilt-a-whirl than a semantic one.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:09 pm to
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I suggest you read the Talmud


After the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. I have a system.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34183 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:10 pm to
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UtahCajun

You must be Mormon/ Because you know nothing of the founding of Christianity

For 300 years the founders of the Christian Church were all members of the Jewish faith, attended the synagogue and read from the Torah, and sought to fulfill the law of the prophets even as converted Christians

Further Reading:

* Life of James - brother to Christ, first bishop of Jerusalem
* Life of Peter
* Life of Paul
* Life of John the apostle
* Simeon - selected as James' successor as bishop of Jerusalem
* Justus - the son of James, the “brother” of Jesus, and likely Jude the Apostle
* Zacharius - Who according to Eusebius, was a Jewish Christian. and is recognized as a saint in the Catholic Church
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90971 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:11 pm to
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Highly encourage you lads to actually watch his programme and educate yourself


educate yourself nitwit.

here
LINK
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63551 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:13 pm to
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For 300 years the founders of the Christian Church were all members of the Jewish faith


Nah. Christianity had already diverged from Judaism by that point.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:19 pm to
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I suggest you read the Talmud.

You know Jesus lived before Talmud was finalized, right?

So Jews could be both during Christs time. Founded on Judaism and supporters of the Messiah

Ya know the MESSIAH predicted by Judaism??

That Messiah??

Doofus
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2169 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:21 pm to
That’s because Jesus’ first priority was to save the House of Israel then the Gentiles so it stands to reason most early converts were Jews. That doesn’t mean the Law wasn’t fulfilled by Jesus nor does it excuse converted Jews then or certain Churches trying to cling to the Law today
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:25 pm to
No. What is your point? They weren’t killed because they were Muslim either which was your idiotic attempt to equate the two lol the internet is hard for you
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23170 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:36 pm to
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I think you are coming across as believing that islam is as valid as Christianity.

Jesus Christ is King.

To believe their version is valid is directly contradictory to what we as Christians are compelled to believe based on the word and teachings of the New Testament, so no thats not what I'm saying.

I am saying that their belief in their book drives them to an equal or potentially even greater degree than mine does because they've been fighting religious wars with themselves and their neighbors since before the crusades so understanding their and the Jewish perspective should be a pre-requisite for anyone trying to have a serious conversation about whats going on in the Middle East.

And as it relates to this specific topic Tucker is correct in saying they love Jesus.

So when our President posts something thats objectively blasphemous to the Islamic (and Christian) faith(s) its important to know it, understand why thats true and to realize that it could make him appear like the anti-christ to their theocratic government and be used as such in propaganda in the region.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:37 pm to
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I am saying that their belief in their book drives them to an equal or potentially even greater degree than mine does because they've been fighting religious wars with themselves and their neighbors since before the crusades so understanding their and the Jewish perspective should be a pre-requisite for anyone trying to have a serious conversation about whats going on in the Middle East.


I understand.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23170 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:46 pm to
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What is "love" absent any philosophical understanding?

Their use of the world love in a religious context is the same as ours, we just believe ourselves to be correct and them wrong.

I could go on a diatribe about how wild and inflammatory both the Koran and the Talmud are to Christians, but I dont have the time and its not worth the trouble to spell it out here.
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Do they have one?

I don't really care, I just need to understand them enough to figure out how they're going to respond to certain external prompts.

Like I dont care why when I meet with Japanese business people its critical to follow certain protocols. I just care about what the protocols are so I can avoid causing issues unnecessarily.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110887 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:58 pm to
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I am saying that their belief in their book drives them to an equal or potentially even greater degree than mine does because they've been fighting religious wars with themselves and their neighbors since before the crusades so understanding their and the Jewish perspective should be a pre-requisite for anyone trying to have a serious conversation about whats going on in the Middle East.

And as it relates to this specific topic Tucker is correct in saying they love Jesus.


The problem as I see what you are getting at, is very little of what Muslims are doing has anything to do with their perspective of Jesus. I would say the same about the Israelis.

So Tucker bringing up the notion that, hey they "love Jesus" or at least they think they do from their perspective, is nothing but a meaningless red herring. I mean, do you really think that has anything to do with anything substantive here?
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:10 pm to
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Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63551 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:11 pm to
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believing that islam is as valid as Christianity.


What do you mean by “valid”?
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4543 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:12 pm to
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I think Tucker is trying to rattle Christians to understand that the Muslims hold Jesus in high regard, while the Jews had him killed.


I mean even the founder of the groyper movement, Nick Fuentes, has said Tuck has become too anti Semitic.


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