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re: Tucker showing more proof he’s pro Islam

Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:20 pm to
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They "revere" him not as the Son of God but as a muslim prophet that will destroy Christianity and convert all to islam.

That's not Jesus


World's better than what our greatest ally thinks of him....
Posted by justaniceguy
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:21 pm to
Nor do Jews. The fact is Muslims have a more favorable view of Christian’s and Jesus than Jews do. This is a fact that many will deny
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:21 pm to
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What are all the things Muslims love about Jesus? Can you name any?


For one, they do not believe he is in a boiling pit of feces...
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:22 pm to
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How do they know Jesus outside of what was written/spoken up to that point that Islam came to be?

Because their religion says so. Its in their book.

You seem to be conflating belief with factual support or objective reality.

They believe something. That doesnt change objective reality, but it can define someones worldview and actions as it obviously does here.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:23 pm to
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World's better than what our greatest ally thinks of him....


Not really.

They are both dead wrong.

I find both religions' views of Jesus to be equally abhorrent.

Yes, a vat of boiling shite is shocking... but no more so than 'jesus' returning to "break the cross", deny his place and convert the entire world to islam.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:23 pm to
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"For us, Christ, Jesus, is infallible, especially to the Shia, so we celebrate alongside you."

That's what Muslims do .... it's allowed in order to advance Islam.

It's known as Taqiyya .
Posted by justaniceguy
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:24 pm to
And what do the Jews say about him?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Islam came centuries after Christianity.

They retroactively constructed their own version of Jesus. It is not Jesus


Unless you are reading the Ethiopian bible, all of what you said is also correct about whatever denomination you follow.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted by justaniceguy
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to
As a follower of Christ I disagree pretty strongly personally.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Because their religion says so. Its in their book.


Because their singular prophet said so... centuries after the historical life and times, death and resurrection, of Christ.

Again... it's like claiming Cleopatra was black, Shakespeare was a woman and Wakanda is real.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:27 pm to
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I find both religions' views of Jesus to be equally abhorrent


So one hold's him in esteem much like we do saints.

The other thinks he is suffering eternal damnation.

And they are equally abhorrent.

Are we sure we are both using "abhorrent" equally?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:29 pm to
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Unless you are reading the Ethiopian bible, all of what you said is also correct about whatever denomination you follow.


I'm in Orthodox right now... Ethiopian next.

And I disagree with your point. Whatever flavor or book count of Christianity... we all know who Jesus is. Excepting the fringes, of course, such as Witnesses.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:29 pm to
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So one hold's him in esteem much like we do saints.


Ignoring the possible faith component, do Muslims have a particular philosophical understanding of Jesus? That's what I don't see or understand.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:30 pm to
Tuckers mind has left him. I would bet hes back on the sauce
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:30 pm to
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So one hold's him in esteem much like we do saints.


No. Muslims reinvented who Jesus was/is. That is abhorrent.

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The other thinks he is suffering eternal damnation.


Equally abhorrent, but they didn't reinvent him- they hated him from the word "go".
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:31 pm to
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they are somehow better?

Who said they're better? What are you even talking about?

Tucker Carlson made a statement with regard to Muslims loving Jesus. Its objectively true based on evidence and their own clerics.

The Jews are wrong in what they believe Jesus was and hate him.

The Muslims are wrong in what they believe Jesus was but love him.

I believe the Muslims being wrong about him only being a prophet is less bad than being glad the Pharisees killed him and that hes justly (in their view) being boiled in excrement as the Jews who follow the Talmud are called to believe but you're welcome to your own subjective and relative perspective of which heretical incorrect religion is less or more bad.

I dont want either religion impacting American values or politics personally, but being honest and objective about what their views are is important to having a firm understanding the actions of both those groups.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:33 pm to
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I'm in Orthodox right now... Ethiopian next.

Upvote for the sense of humor.
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And I disagree with your point. Whatever flavor or book count of Christianity... we all know who Jesus is. Excepting the fringes, of course, such as Witnesses

The one thing that I absolutely love about religion...

Every single one, of the thousands that have ever existed, has always, always been absolutely sure they were the single one that was correct.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:34 pm to
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Because their singular prophet said so... centuries after the historical life and times, death and resurrection, of Christ.

Again... it's like claiming Cleopatra was black, Shakespeare was a woman and Wakanda is real.

That those things are as incorrect doesnt mean the millions of people who push DEI or Islam dont believe them and attempt to act in a way that advocates for those things however.

You seem to be arguing with me as though I think they're correct, I'm just stating what their beliefs are because they're impacting their actions in a region I would've preferred not to be involved with at all because everyone over there fights generational wars over the distinctions we're discussing right now.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:38 pm to
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The one thing that I absolutely love about religion... Every single one, of the thousands that have ever existed, has always, always been absolutely sure they were the single one that was correct.


Well, yeah.

I don't rest on ME personally being right though... but I know God is.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:41 pm to
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You seem to be arguing with me as though I think they're correct, I'm just stating what their beliefs are because they're impacting their actions in a region I would've preferred not to be involved with at all because everyone over there fights generational wars over the distinctions we're discussing right now.


You're right... let me state what my issue actually is with your comments.

I don't think you believe islam, that's not my beef. I think you are coming across as believing that islam is as valid as Christianity. That's my beef.
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