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re: Tucker says Jan 6 committee wants to abolish Electoral College and change voting laws.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:26 pm to squid_hunt
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:26 pm to squid_hunt
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The division of political authority which led the states to compete for population and business, leading to increased freedom and prosperity literally the intent behind the design
No it wasn’t. The Articles of confederation lead to too Much competition between states and weren’t working the whole
point of the constitution was to great a unified country with better cooperation between states that were originally independent colonies.
We had competition before. One of the driving issues behind the constitution was interstate tarriffs and other interstate issues.
The bicameral system was a compromise made to keep small states On board and founders like James Madison thought it was unnecessary.
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Prove that the electoral college is an electoral college is a brilliant refutation, short stack.
This is literally Nonsense. 1, I asked You to prove it’s a good thing. Not that’s it is what it is.
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The fact you can't figure out I was mocking you is on you
You look like a fricking moron, and you’re the only person to blame.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 12:31 pm
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:26 pm to SammyTiger
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We also have continued to have increased success as a nation as the power Of the Federal government grew.
You have absolutely zero basis in law or fact to support this
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:28 pm to SammyTiger
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Pick one and track it back to 1776.
Bastard children. Crime rates. Tranny reading hour. Taxes. National debt. Welfare state.
We advanced in our first hundred years too; does that prove anything about slavery?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:30 pm to SammyTiger
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I asked You to prove it’s a good thing. Not that’s it is what it is.
He says from America, with his wifi and the internet, and political views freely expressed. You are a turd.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:32 pm to squid_hunt
Back to the beginning of this argument.
Are you saying that’s is because of the electoral College I have Internet?
If so, defend that point with some kind of argument.
Are you saying that’s is because of the electoral College I have Internet?
If so, defend that point with some kind of argument.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:34 pm to SammyTiger
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Are you saying that’s is because of the electoral College I have Internet?
And you wonder why people think you're retarded.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:36 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Tuesday, November 8, 2022 can't come soon enough.
January 2023 needs to get here. They'll have the majority until the swearing in. They'll try and go scorched earth AFTER the election.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:37 pm to David_DJS
It’s the same “correlation must equal causation” Argument you made.
It’s weak and none of you actually want to try and support it.
You just want to throw it out there and then call people names.
Originally we didn’t even have popular election and we’ve become one of the most powerful nations in the world after we started having those.
Doesn’t that support a trend toward MORE representation if all correlation is causation?
It’s weak and none of you actually want to try and support it.
You just want to throw it out there and then call people names.
Originally we didn’t even have popular election and we’ve become one of the most powerful nations in the world after we started having those.
Doesn’t that support a trend toward MORE representation if all correlation is causation?
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:50 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s the same “correlation must equal causation” Argument you made.
You branded my argument as "correlation must equal causation" - and it's not. Granted, it requires a level of intelligence that makes possible an understanding that nobody argues the EC, and the EC alone, is responsible for everything good, including your f'n internet connection. You're incapable or unwilling to have an honest discussion.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:53 pm to Diamondawg
quote:They need to take a look at the Red Blue map and see what chance an amendment like that would have. If I remember my 7th grade Civics, it's takes 75% of the states' legislature to pass.
Would it not take a constitutional amendment?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:54 pm to David_DJS
I asked You why disproportionate representation was a good thing and you said
Which is a cop out answer.
If you want to now pretend you actually had a nuanced argument, you can, but I invited You to make that argument and you declined.
Don’t get on your high horse now about it requiring understanding. You refused To Make the argument .
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It has created the wealthiest, freest, most powerful country the world has ever seen. What do you have against prosperity and freedom?
Which is a cop out answer.
If you want to now pretend you actually had a nuanced argument, you can, but I invited You to make that argument and you declined.
Don’t get on your high horse now about it requiring understanding. You refused To Make the argument .
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:17 pm to SammyTiger
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Which is a cop out answer.
It was a broad generalization. The EC is part/parcel of a governing scheme that has created the wealthiest, freest, most powerful country the world has ever seen. Did you really need that typed out to understand what many in this thread are arguing?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:21 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Try reading literally anything on teh founding and why we have a bicameral congress.
I asked You why disproportionate representation was a good thing and you said
Biden, despite having the most votes in history, won the fewest number of counties in history. won the fewest number.
Ultimately...
More Than Half of U.S. Population in 4.6 Percent of Counties That's 143 counties.
The Founders were wisely concerned about states distoring power by population. In today's America, we should be worried about counties being able to distort power by population.
If anything, with the increase in urbanization, the fixed portion of the EC should be higher than it was at the founding--not lower.
It's clear. Those that want the EC dissolved are the ones that need to explain how disproportionate representation is a good thing.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:24 pm to David_DJS
Oh ok. That’s a weak arguement.
Basically that because we have a functioning government all aspect of it are beyond reproach.
Why does the EC make us a better nation?
Basically that because we have a functioning government all aspect of it are beyond reproach.
Why does the EC make us a better nation?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Oh ok. That’s a weak arguement.
Says the class retard.
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Basically that because we have a functioning government all aspect of it are beyond reproach.
More retardation.
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Why does the EC make us a better nation?
That's not how this works. The EC is a real thing and most of the states the federal government serves are happy with it. You're the one arguing for change. Tell us how having a handful of cities in a few states decide every f'n thing would make us a better nation.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:43 pm to David_DJS
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That's not how this works.
It’s how a conversation about whether the EC aid a good thing or not works.
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The EC is a real thing and most of the states the federal government serves are happy with it. You're the one arguing for change. Tell us how having a handful of cities in a few states decide every f'n thing would make us a better nation.
Cities wouldn’t decide election. People
Would.
“A handful of cities” would still need to be the majority of voters.
An American’s vote mattering as much as any other Americans is a good thing.
It’s consistent with a republic.
Shouldn’t people vote and not cities and states?
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:44 pm to SammyTiger
This has to be a joke. We can wake up any day now to a country that completely collapsed. You are so damn ignorant you shouldn’t even be in this discussion
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:49 pm to Froman
quote:Its brilliant and the ONLY way fairness can be applied in a large country.
It’s archaic and unnecessary,
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:50 pm to Taxing Authority
The Connecticut compromise was a compromise
Not everyone agrees with every state being equal, they were just more interested in getting a federal government created.
If they all agreed it wouldn’t be a compromise.
Not everyone agrees with every state being equal, they were just more interested in getting a federal government created.
If they all agreed it wouldn’t be a compromise.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:54 pm to Othello
Trump is actually correct here. For a democracy, the EC is a disaster as it prevents true democracy (majority rules).
Fortunately, we're a representative republic and it's a very good thing for that form of government.
Fortunately, we're a representative republic and it's a very good thing for that form of government.
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