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Trust the science? Ozempic issues

Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
11256 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:27 pm to
Either way, the result will be less fat people, which is a net positive.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46565 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:28 pm to
I think this is mostly bullshite. Ozempic causes you to lose your appetite. Any time you get malnourished, whether it’s through a discipline diet or an Ozempic induced diet, you will lose muscle mass. This is especially true if you diet without working out. I don’t think Ozempic is any worse for the heart muscle than discipline forced dieting.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm
Posted by lsu4life77
Member since Jun 2010
1513 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:28 pm to
As long as this board exists, that's never gonna happen.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7543 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
19588 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm to
If it sounds too good to be true...
Posted by SaintsReportExile
Member since Nov 2023
519 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:30 pm to
The pharma shills coming out quick on this one
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17168 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:35 pm to
Wasn’t there a study that found it can negatively affect brain tissue as well? Something about the brain being fatty tissue.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8103 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:40 pm to
A reduction in LV mass with no change (and perhaps a small increase) in ejection fraction is not necessarily bad in a weight loss model.

It's in JACC. Will read tomorrow.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18436 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:49 pm to
I wouldn't be concerned with this. Fat people often have enlarged hearts, so losing a little heart mass isn't a big deal (even according to the study authors). This is also an in vitro study and they aren't always translatable to in vivo.

A bigger deal is the fact that people are losing a lot of muscle mass on Ozempic. When people get gastric bypass, about 20% of the weight they lose is muscle. On Ozempic it is almost double that (38%).

However, in both cases, going to the gym and lifting can stop almost all of this loss. So if a person is on Ozempic, just hitting the gym a few times per week will mitigate it.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96567 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:55 pm to
Or instead of relying on a shot with unknown long term side effects, people can just eat lean protein and fresh vegetables and exercise to lose weight
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33899 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Either way, the result will be less fat people, which is a net positive.


You’re a dick and you should feel bad.

I laughed of course. But you’re still a dick.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:00 pm to
Everyone with a brain in their skull knew immediately when this drug was announced it would have catastrophic side effects
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75322 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:02 pm to
Thankfully I'm not a trashy fat.

But I'm going to take Ozempic just to own the MAGAts.

ChEcKmAtE dRuMpFtArDs!!
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4531 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:04 pm to

quote:

Or instead of relying on a shot with unknown long term side effects, people can just eat lean protein and fresh vegetables and exercise to lose weight


exactly, Weight Watchers has a workable weight maintenance diet program (once you've removed the excess pounds) and intermittent fasting makes it easier to stay within one's points budget.

eating right and exercising make you feel healthy and energetic. screw those big pharma solutions, the side effects sound like a recital of misery.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16685 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:22 pm to
Agree Penrod.

Also, if you lost a hundred pounds, wouldnt that mean your heart would not work as hard and theirfore lose muscle mass, like any other muscle in your body that is worked less????

Wonder what competitor paid for this study?
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
715 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:24 pm to
This is great news for fat people who had an enlarged heart from being fat! It take this as a win for fat people who will be able to reduce the issues caused by an enlarged heart.

Plus, they aren't going to continue to take it after they are skinny.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14530 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
A drug to loose wait the frick could go wrong. It’s for lazy people

A shot to prevent Covid what could go wrong
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
10608 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Weight Watchers has a workable weight maintenance diet program (once you've removed the excess pounds)


They've begun removing those excess pounds with Ozempic.

If one needs Ozempic or Mounjaro to lose a crap ton of weight and it helps them, and if they increase protein intake and do some weight lifting, they'll counter the loss of muscle mass. And in the process, no longer be a type 2 diabetic, get off a crap ton of other drugs, etc. At that point, they can then continue to eat healthy and exercise. How is that not a win?
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
32660 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:28 pm to
It’s well worth the heart damage to avoid diet and exercise or taking responsibility for gluttony.
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