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Trust the science? Ozempic issues
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:27 pm to Crimson Wraith
Either way, the result will be less fat people, which is a net positive.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:28 pm to Crimson Wraith
I think this is mostly bullshite. Ozempic causes you to lose your appetite. Any time you get malnourished, whether it’s through a discipline diet or an Ozempic induced diet, you will lose muscle mass. This is especially true if you diet without working out. I don’t think Ozempic is any worse for the heart muscle than discipline forced dieting.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:28 pm to NotoriousFSU
As long as this board exists, that's never gonna happen.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:29 pm to Crimson Wraith
If it sounds too good to be true...
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:30 pm to Crimson Wraith
The pharma shills coming out quick on this one
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:35 pm to Crimson Wraith
Wasn’t there a study that found it can negatively affect brain tissue as well? Something about the brain being fatty tissue.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:40 pm to Crimson Wraith
A reduction in LV mass with no change (and perhaps a small increase) in ejection fraction is not necessarily bad in a weight loss model.
It's in JACC. Will read tomorrow.
It's in JACC. Will read tomorrow.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:49 pm to Crimson Wraith
I wouldn't be concerned with this. Fat people often have enlarged hearts, so losing a little heart mass isn't a big deal (even according to the study authors). This is also an in vitro study and they aren't always translatable to in vivo.
A bigger deal is the fact that people are losing a lot of muscle mass on Ozempic. When people get gastric bypass, about 20% of the weight they lose is muscle. On Ozempic it is almost double that (38%).
However, in both cases, going to the gym and lifting can stop almost all of this loss. So if a person is on Ozempic, just hitting the gym a few times per week will mitigate it.
A bigger deal is the fact that people are losing a lot of muscle mass on Ozempic. When people get gastric bypass, about 20% of the weight they lose is muscle. On Ozempic it is almost double that (38%).
However, in both cases, going to the gym and lifting can stop almost all of this loss. So if a person is on Ozempic, just hitting the gym a few times per week will mitigate it.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:55 pm to AUstar
Or instead of relying on a shot with unknown long term side effects, people can just eat lean protein and fresh vegetables and exercise to lose weight
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:57 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Either way, the result will be less fat people, which is a net positive.
You’re a dick and you should feel bad.
I laughed of course. But you’re still a dick.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:00 pm to Crimson Wraith
Everyone with a brain in their skull knew immediately when this drug was announced it would have catastrophic side effects
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:02 pm to Crimson Wraith
Thankfully I'm not a trashy fat.
But I'm going to take Ozempic just to own the MAGAts.
ChEcKmAtE dRuMpFtArDs!!
But I'm going to take Ozempic just to own the MAGAts.
ChEcKmAtE dRuMpFtArDs!!
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:04 pm to deltaland
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Or instead of relying on a shot with unknown long term side effects, people can just eat lean protein and fresh vegetables and exercise to lose weight
exactly, Weight Watchers has a workable weight maintenance diet program (once you've removed the excess pounds) and intermittent fasting makes it easier to stay within one's points budget.
eating right and exercising make you feel healthy and energetic. screw those big pharma solutions, the side effects sound like a recital of misery.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:22 pm to Penrod
Agree Penrod.
Also, if you lost a hundred pounds, wouldnt that mean your heart would not work as hard and theirfore lose muscle mass, like any other muscle in your body that is worked less????
Wonder what competitor paid for this study?
Also, if you lost a hundred pounds, wouldnt that mean your heart would not work as hard and theirfore lose muscle mass, like any other muscle in your body that is worked less????
Wonder what competitor paid for this study?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:24 pm to Crimson Wraith
This is great news for fat people who had an enlarged heart from being fat! It take this as a win for fat people who will be able to reduce the issues caused by an enlarged heart.
Plus, they aren't going to continue to take it after they are skinny.
Plus, they aren't going to continue to take it after they are skinny.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:27 pm to OBReb6
A drug to loose wait the frick could go wrong. It’s for lazy people
A shot to prevent Covid what could go wrong
A shot to prevent Covid what could go wrong
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:28 pm to Mellow Drama
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Weight Watchers has a workable weight maintenance diet program (once you've removed the excess pounds)
They've begun removing those excess pounds with Ozempic.
If one needs Ozempic or Mounjaro to lose a crap ton of weight and it helps them, and if they increase protein intake and do some weight lifting, they'll counter the loss of muscle mass. And in the process, no longer be a type 2 diabetic, get off a crap ton of other drugs, etc. At that point, they can then continue to eat healthy and exercise. How is that not a win?
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:28 pm to Crimson Wraith
It’s well worth the heart damage to avoid diet and exercise or taking responsibility for gluttony.
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