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re: Trump’s tariff revenue can make impact on national debt
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:56 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:56 am to 4cubbies
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Only you can't actually find an example of me doing this.
There are several in this thread alone. Pick any thread youre in and it turns into marxian mumbo jumbo
You are indoctinated and cannot see the world outside the marxist lens of oppression.
You think women are too weak to hold their own without mens help
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:57 am to 4cubbies
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Me: "women don't get any sort of maternity leave in the USA"
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:04 am to Pezzo
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~$2T+ is added yearly. Tariffs work, but not the fix. Got to reign in the war machine.
I completely disagree. Defense is really the only thing the government should be required to provide.
If you want to get rid of that 2T how about welfare reform. And by reform I mean removing able bodied persons from the rolls. They can do the jobs that the recently deported people were doing. They will do those jobs if they are hungry and living outside. But as long as Uncle Sam is housing and feeding them they will sit on their fat asses.
Welfare for the vast majority of people should be for small amounts of time, such as 5 years spread out over their lifetime.
And we also need to revisit "disability". Many of these people are not really disabled and do side work for cash. Severe penalties need to be put on people who lie to get disability checks.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:56 am to 4cubbies
quote:I work in that industry and the only struggling we are doing is finding people that are willling to come to work.
Did you know that the tech industry is struggling massively?
quote:Well your hero jibberish joe biden said it...
I never understood the "learn to code" trope. We need workforce with more than one skillset.
quote:I think they most certainly should be MUCH more conservative that they are. My representative and both Senators in my state are very conservative. How about yours? do you vote for the most conservative or do you just whine and complain here while doing nothing yourself to solve the issues you complain about.
What are your expectations for Congress to pay back the trillions they borrow? Do they just get to continue to take 5-week recesses and get paid while you tell unemployed 24 year old work at McDonald's?
quote:If you will do some honest research you'll see that President Trump (the one you're making the passive-agressive, cowardly, female-dog comments about) has paid for most of that out of his own pocket or he has some donors donating money like with the new ball room. He's not taking a pay check.
Does he get to continue to waste our money painting the White House gold and make us pay for him to golf on his own golf courses while you scold unemployed 20-somethings?
Were you worried about the deficit spending when there were billions going to USAID and then most being funneled back to democrat pacs? Didn't think so.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Bull Excrement.
I dont.
quote:Ever hear the story of the Pot and Kettle?
Youre not interested in politics. Youre only interested in the cult of personality that is Trumpism.
quote:And no matter what he did, you female dogs would whine and grip about it....
Issues dont matter, that orange buffoon can accept Bernies platform and you people would celebrate it.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:57 am to 4cubbies
"They care about people who can't find jobs in our shitty economy post-college paying back their student loans."
No, they actually don't. What they care about is forgiving the debt taken on by morons who went to colleges and universities to get liberal arts degrees, degrees in useless studies that were never going to provide them with a secured income, all the while feeding the large university academicians who thrive off the government teat. If we poured as much money into the vocational schools as we pour into these academic money pits, we would be creating sustainable job growth in the market rather than a bunch of lazy liberal minded over educated freeloaders.
No, they actually don't. What they care about is forgiving the debt taken on by morons who went to colleges and universities to get liberal arts degrees, degrees in useless studies that were never going to provide them with a secured income, all the while feeding the large university academicians who thrive off the government teat. If we poured as much money into the vocational schools as we pour into these academic money pits, we would be creating sustainable job growth in the market rather than a bunch of lazy liberal minded over educated freeloaders.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:00 am to Revelator
Would love for this to be applied to the national debt!
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:02 am to Revelator
Then why the raised debt ceiling?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:03 am to Pezzo
We could spend 0 on defense and would still add 1 trillion to the debt every year
It’s entitlement spending or bust for getting rid of the deficit
It’s entitlement spending or bust for getting rid of the deficit
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:23 am to 4cubbies
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But garnishing their wages does help them?
That's part of the accountability thingy you like to avoid. I have to pay back loans I sign my name to as well. It's so weird how that works.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:59 pm to RollTide4547
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I work in that industry and the only struggling we are doing is finding people that are willling to come to work.
Your posting habits tell us you’re part of the problem.
I guess all the reports of layoffs are fake news?
81,000 tech employees have been laid off so far in 2025.
LINK
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:03 pm to Revelator
At this point in the year we are over $1 trillion in interest. Tariffs are about $50 billion a month.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:51 pm to Ingeniero
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This article/study has already been posted a few times and each time it's overlooked that the OBBBA swamps any revenue that the tariffs bring.
Are you still referring to the numbers that consider a tax break to be spending without any consideration for the increased tax revenue?
It's simple math. Time and time again, it's been proven that the most tax revenue comes when the tax rate is around 17%. Any change in the tax rate that moves it closer to that number, therefore, will always be a net positive.
Tax revenue is a function of gdp, not the tax rate. The only way to reduce the deficit without reducing spending is to increase the gdp. Unfortunately, "principled conservatives" do not understand this basic concept, so they constantly complain when someone pushes for lower taxes or lower interest rates, both of which are proven to increase gdp.
And then they'll call others not true conservatives for understanding and following the math. Conservatives have become another party of feelings over facts.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:54 pm to Pezzo
quote:The 'War Machine' is what allows us to run obscene deficits.
Got to reign in the war machine.
Got to reign in ENTITLEMENTS. Good luck!
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:55 pm to Revelator
The USA doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.
Revenue is not the answer, cutting spending is.
Revenue is not the answer, cutting spending is.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:10 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Really. How so? Do tell. You're the one whining, bitching and griping while still supporting democrapts.
Your posting habits tell us you’re part of the problem.
quote:Ok. How many have been hired? We need that number to see if 81000 is good or bad. If 100K have been hired, thats a net gain of 19K.The economy is MUCH better than it was under bidet, whether you want to admit it or not.
81,000 tech employees have been laid off so far in 2025.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 3:45 pm to 4cubbies
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in our shitty economy
Nah, Google says the United States still has the strongest economy in the world.
So I'm thinking that the problem is the choices people made within the context of that economy.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 3:54 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
You realize that this sentence:
Directly contradicts this sentence:
(And it's very obviously a function of both)
You don't act like it's so simple for you.
quote:
it's been proven that the most tax revenue comes when the tax rate is around 17%.
Directly contradicts this sentence:
quote:
Tax revenue is a function of gdp, not the tax rate
(And it's very obviously a function of both)
quote:
It's simple math.
You don't act like it's so simple for you.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 4:03 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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It’s entitlement spending or bust for getting rid of the deficit
That's correct, as long as you are including SS/Medicare as entitlements (which they objectively are).
Posted on 8/13/25 at 4:03 pm to wackatimesthree
SS reform is the most necessary of anything
It’s impossible to close the deficit without it
It’s impossible to close the deficit without it
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