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re: Trump’s Syrian Maneuver Works. President Erdogan Asks for Negotiations With Kurds in Syria
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:06 pm to texridder
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:06 pm to texridder
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Turkish-backed forces advanced on the Kurdish-held border town of Kobani on Wednesday, despite Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s commitment to U.S. President Donald Trump that he would not attack the location.
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So I guess EO with economic sanctions against Turkey incoming.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:07 pm to GumboPot
Sometime I want to lose so that I can enjoy winning again. So much winning.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:09 pm to baobabtiger
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Sometime I want to lose so that I can enjoy winning again. So much winning.
If losing is not wasting American lives for some Middle Eastern conflict that has nothing to do with America I'll take that loss every time.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:11 pm to GumboPot
That’s weird - I thought Erdogan was begging the deal maker to make a deal?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:17 pm to rbWarEagle
Erdogan answers only to Putin at this point, and it looks like Putin has told him to tap the brakes. Hopefully this (crippled Turkish economy from sanctions and a largely failed offensive in Syria) is a huge black eye for Erdogan that leads to him losing power in the next election.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:18 pm to GeneralLee
Yeah, those elections seem pretty legit 
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:19 pm to GeneralLee
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Erdogan answers only to Putin at this point, and it looks like Putin has told him to tap the brakes. Hopefully this (crippled Turkish economy from sanctions and a largely failed offensive in Syria) is a huge black eye for Erdogan that leads to him losing power in the next election.
soooo..orange man still bad?
maybe a little bad?
just a bit bad?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:21 pm to GumboPot
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Has Turkey ceased all aggressive operations after making this request?...
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Turkish-backed forces advanced on the Kurdish-held border town of Kobani on Wednesday, despite Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s commitment to U.S. President Donald Trump that he would not attack the location.
The Turks are scumbags. It's obvious that this request for negotiations was just to buy time.
I don't understand the rush to remove U.S. Troops that were almost exclusively in advisory positions without some negotiated agreement about what would happen when we left.
Was this just meant to be another distraction?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:24 pm to texridder
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The Turks are scumbags
why do you hate our NATO allies?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:27 pm to rbWarEagle
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That’s weird - I thought Erdogan was begging the deal maker to make a deal?
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“Erdogan told Trump he would not go to Kobani. He immediately broke all his promises on the size and scope of the operation,” a senior U.S. administration official told Foreign Policy. “I think they played us the whole time.”
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:30 pm to GumboPot
I'd appreciate it if we could get our nukes out of Turkey, mmkay
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:33 pm to Yak
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I'd appreciate it if we could get our nukes out of Turkey, mmkay
Don't we want them there as a deterrent against Russia?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:34 pm to CAD703X
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soooo..orange man still bad?
Yes. He could have just as easily told the Kurds he was out in a week and then Syrian troops could have manned the observation posts. This newly generated conflict was completely unnecessary.
We need to get the nukes out of Incirlik ASAP and then really start to work on cratering the Turkish economy.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:34 pm to GumboPot
quote:Let the rest of NATO figure it out
Don't we want them there as a deterrent against Russia?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:37 pm to GumboPot
I haven't seen this much orange Kool-Aid since vacation bible school.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:38 pm to texridder
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I don't understand the rush to remove U.S. Troops that were almost exclusively in advisory positions without some negotiated agreement about what would happen when we left.
We tried to negotiate. The Kurds didnt want to.
Syria didn't want to.
Turkey didn't want to.
So at that point, what the frick do you do?
It's an endless war.
People are saying, we needed to have a different exit strategy.
There isn't one. Getting out of these quagmires aren't easy. If there was, Obama would have done it.
There will inevitably be a power vacuum when we pull out.
No one, until now, had the intestinal fortitude to pull out and deal with the ramifications. It's better politically to keep the status quo.
Thank God for Donald John Trump. It takes guts to do what's right even when short term it's not a good political move.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:42 pm to GumboPot
Except Erdogan never begged Trump to mediate.
Also, who could have ever seen this coming?
Also, who could have ever seen this coming?
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:45 pm to rbWarEagle
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Except Erdogan never begged Trump to mediate.
Begging is a bit more extreme form of asking.
Asking is just asking.
Were Vice-President Mike Pence and National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien not asked or are they just going to show up uninvited?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:46 pm to scrooster
Ottomans sowed the seeds of hate over a millenia. We lucked out that Malta, Lepanto, and Cyprus drained the blood for fighting for Europe and and the Dutch, English, Spaniards , French, and Portugal had mastered the oceans while landlocking them against Russia and India.
Spanish treasure fleets sinking everyone's economies also helped.
Spanish treasure fleets sinking everyone's economies also helped.
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