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re: Trump willing to end war without opening Hormuz Strait - WSJ

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Posted by Ailsa
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:51 am to
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That’s a rationalization being used after the fact. It just is.
No.
Iran's military structure was set in advance so that if leadership got taken out, the plan would not. That plan was always to control the Straits of Hormuz. Once Iran was a nuclear threat, it would have taken control of the straits. That was the sole purpose of Iran's navy, complete with extensive mining capacity and land based support.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:55 am to
Yep payback is a bitch and the UK will have to figure it out themselves. They’re already going to be dependent on the US for natural gas this winter.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:58 am to
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How incredibly naïve. Homuz was always going to be an issue at a time of Iran's choosing.


Exactly.

Iran dangling over world trade like the sword of Damocles
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:00 am to
Having a contingency plan to close the Strait as a result of being bombed is not the same thing as they were always going to do it.

Produce evidence that Iran was going to close the Strait prior to being bombed.

That would be a huge help to the US cause.

All of those Mossad agents high up in the IRGC need to produce this intelligence.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 11:01 am
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:06 am to
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Yep payback is a bitch and the UK will have to figure it out themselves. They’re already going to be dependent on the US for natural gas this winter.


That will leave the door open for future negotiations as the people in the UK are being genocided slowly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:14 am to
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Produce evidence that Iran was going to close the Strait prior to being bombed.
Ever since the 1979 Iranian Revolution, Iranian leaders periodically raised the possibility of blockading Hormuz to leverage geopolitical pressure. Throughout the 2010s, Tehran made threats to close the strait in response to U.S. pressure, sanctions, and threats against its oil exports. In 2018–2019, Iranian officials warned they could block Hormuz. It's a matter of public record, no Intel required.
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:18 am to
Plus, several times over the years they've laid a few mines in the strait.
It was going to happen eventually
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:19 am to
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Having a contingency plan to close the Strait as a result of being bombed is not the same thing as they were always going to do it.


He’s only going to dig in. Godspeed, sir.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:31 am to
I think we can all agree that the US providing actual justification would do wonders for both international and domestic support.

Trump keeps asking for more support from our allies, and providing that justification would go a long way towards more support.

Because “we had to because they would have done it eventually” isn’t gaining any traction so far.

I’m hoping they get it together and actually make this case stronger.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:59 am to
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Iran dangling over world trade like the sword of Damocles
Exactly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:03 pm to
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He’s only going to dig in
I'm sure Quincy and Paine, John Adams' opponents in the Boston massacre trial, said the same thing of him when he proclaimed "facts are stubborn things."
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:04 pm to
I fricked this up for everyone, now you go fix it or give me money - Trump

What a retard
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:04 pm to
Doc….did we lose Roger or is he on timeout? I hope it’s the latter.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:05 pm to
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I fricked this up for everyone, now you go fix it or give me money - Trump What a retard


If that’s your takeaway, you are the moron. you display an extreme ignorance of history. Your only thought is OMB!!!! Sad.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:05 pm to
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did we lose Roger or is he on timeout?


Got et by a polar bear.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:08 pm to
It’s not a fact though. It’s a fancy projection. Have fun with it.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:08 pm to
Never take Trump literally. Take him seriously.
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:08 pm to
“Sauces”
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:12 pm to
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It’s not a fact though. It’s a fancy projection. Have fun with it.


As is your definitive statement. Dummy! Typical liberal projection.
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