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re: Trump willing to end war without opening Hormuz Strait - WSJ

Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:16 am to
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Un-named sources say:


Watching people say shite like this, then saying BASED in the thread where Trump tweeted that our allies should re-open the Strait on their own, has given me whiplash.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:17 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26499 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:16 am to
Arm that protestors with thousands of Ukraine like FPV drones, and the regime's forces will crack.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476736 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:17 am to
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Multiple choice question: The United States withdrawing troops from Iran is closer to an

A. Interventionist action

B. Isolationist action


It's the ending of an interventionist action.

An isolationist action would not have troops there to withdraw.

quote:

Yes, but of all of the criticisms by isolationists, which one has been parroted more often the last month than any other? Ding, ding, ding.

Again, you're creating a false choice and ignoring that just because the worst possible outcome may not happen doesn't mean that a terrible outcome happened (due to ignoring isolationist philosophy and engaging in the exact opposite).

This is not a binary scenario and your false choice is a fallacy.

Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
845 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:17 am to
Why did we have to go and start a GD war? Why not just “obliterate” Irans nuclear capacity every single time they get anything going and call it a day?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138914 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:17 am to
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Is it? I see it around $12-$15.
Do you?

Western Canadian Select (WCS) crude oil is trading around US$55–$60 per barrel. West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil is trading between $100 and $107 per barrel.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28137 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to
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Please link me to the military intelligence, including the classified material, that proves that the US had no legitimate interest in this action.

That's what all you YOU guys ignore.


Then we can't question any action by the government if someone used secret squirrel intel to reach the decision. We can't question Iraq or Afghanistan either, we'll just have to trust Cheney's explanation.

I'm not ready for that black pill.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476736 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to
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He can’t just keep flip flopping based on how he feels that day. A global energy crisis has spawned out of this. NATO countries are openly breaking with us and are already or soon to be cutting deals with Iran behind our backs.


The craziest outcome of this is the EU getting closer to both China and Iran, and China exerting more dominance/relations with Iran. This is basically finishing the job tariffs tried to do.

It would be an absolutely terrible outcome for Trump's 2nd admin. Historic self sabotage and economic suicide.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to
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Stop being a bitch.


Meanwhile the AfD is saying Germany needs to close its bases to American forces.

Spain, Italy, and France have closed their airspace to American forces.

The UK is restricting intel to American forces.

But it’s just me being a bitch.


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Or retarded


Let me know when we open the strait
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68387 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to
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This is disastrous to American legitimacy. And it shows that our military is incapable of actually removing the Iranian threat without a significant loss of life by our personnel.

We’re very close to handing Iran a strategic victory.


I know we tend to laugh at some of the guys on here like Decatur and RFK who staunchly defend the trans-atlantic alliance, but maybe it was dumb to burn it all down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476736 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:19 am to
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but maybe it was dumb to burn it all down.

Uh, yeah.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
845 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:19 am to
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Arm that protestors with thousands of Ukraine like FPV drones, and the regime's forces will crack


Most would prob wind up being used against Americans, it’s insane to even think about arming those people
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90615 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:20 am to
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Meanwhile the AfD is saying Germany needs to close its bases to American forces.

Spain, Italy, and France have closed their airspace to American forces.

The UK is restricting intel to American forces.

Been saying it for months, frick each and every one of them.

Move our shite to Poland etc, cut the fricking money to these fricks asap.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476736 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:20 am to
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Been saying it for months, frick each and every one of them.

Move our shite to Poland etc, cut the fricking money to these fricks asap.


Here is an example of emotions overcoming logic and creating irrationality
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:21 am to
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Move our shite to Poland etc, cut the fricking money to these fricks asap.


Poland told us to frick off just today. We requested for some of their Patriot missile batteries be moved to the Middle East.

We’re burning goodwill everywhere.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:22 am
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90615 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:21 am to
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Here is an example of emotions overcoming logic and creating irrationality

They have jerked us around all the way back to Eldorado Canyon chief.

Time to cut bait.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476736 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:22 am to
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They have jerked us around all the way back to Eldorado Canyon chief.

Time to cut bait.


We can't sustain our economy by relying on poor countries like Poland, El Salvador, and Venezuela
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87520 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:22 am to
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All of which renders your observation about our heavy crude imports completely effing meaningless.
The US will make bank in this environment.
I don't think you understand how much high prices will impact the rest of the economy. Forget the pump, damn near every good is affected by high crude prices. Which means consumers gets fricked.
Trying not to be insulting, but your post lacks basic understanding.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20328 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:22 am to
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We’re burning goodwill everywhere.


Another low iq has surfaced
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23018 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:24 am to
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I don't think you understand how much high prices will impact the rest of the economy. Forget the pump, damn near every good is affected by high crude prices. Which means consumers gets fricked


Careful. Like with tariffs, SDV is about to ask how much more YOU specifically paid for a barrel of oil. I've never bought a barrel of oil in my life, so oil prices don't affect me!
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90615 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:24 am to
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We can't sustain our economy by relying on poor countries like Poland, El Salvador, and Venezuela

So the only way we have a trading partner in the EU is our military forces being held hostage?
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