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re: Trump will have to explain what Guliani said.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:50 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:50 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Where did the $130k as a campaign contribution allegation come from?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Let's be real here, if you are part of the looney left fringe, which no doubt you are, Trump's credibility has always been and will alway be in the toilet with you nut jobs. Anyone who thinks you loons will ever find a reason to give him credibility is smoking crack. So please spare us the moral outrage that he continues to lose credibility with you looney bastards.
It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to The Pirate King
quote:Pretty amazing
People that voted for trump could give a shite about his credibility
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to rumproast
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Go look up the dates yourself you lazy frick. You clearly need something to do.
Exactly what I thought. BTW, they should have taught you while in law school that this would be considered a case lost.
If you need that explained to you, I can help with that too.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:54 pm to mmmmmbeeer
quote:IF this was about some bigger deal like russia or something, I would agree with you. But I see no evidence that this particular episode (stormy pay off) is something that indies care about. I think a recent poll had it like 27% of Americans think it is an issue they care about.
It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
There is some polling evidence that trump is gaining with indies, anyway. He is up to 44 in rcp average. That means he is improving a bit with indies.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
This country has the attention span of gnats.
This story, like Hillary emails or Benghazi or whatever, is already way oversaturated for the average American to care.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to Jjdoc
But I have. You just are more interested in playing literary super smart sleuth guy than actually reading or comprehending. Understand.... Nobody gives a frick about your attempt to try and show how clever you are by trying to point out what you perceive (erroneously) as a mis-use of literary terms. (At least I dont.) You bore me. Why dont you discuss the topic instead of playing literary cop? Now go away.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to mmmmmbeeer
quote:In that case, your guys are in a world of hurt. Even before NoKo, China trade, and NAFTA restructuring, Trump is gaining amongst independents. Sorry.
It's about the independents.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:57 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Not comparable issues at all.
This story, like Hillary emails or Benghazi or whatever, is already way oversaturated for the average American to care.
hillary emails were a fricking huge issue for voters, and why she lost the election.
The stormy stuff has been a dud since WSJ broke the story months ago
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:57 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
Trump is at 50% approval rating, his support over the past 2 weeks has doubled with Black Americans. His support with 18-34 year olds has caused the dems to slip 9 points. In that 18-34 age bracket, white support has flipped. He is almost at 50% while the dems sit closer to 30% .
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:58 pm to texridder
Good grief- people like you are the reason that people like Maxine Waters and Sheila J Lee have been sitting in DC for 30 years with exactly zero accomplishments. Ignorance breeds ignorance.
There’s little use in explaining anything to people like you, bc you either can’t, or refuse to, think for yourself.
There’s little use in explaining anything to people like you, bc you either can’t, or refuse to, think for yourself.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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Trump is gaining amongst independents. Sorry.
Probably. But can he hold it together til the midterms?
Also, if NK deal blows up, he’s hurt bad.
Now I can’t stand Trump. But I sure hope he closes the NK deal, no matter what the politics. And yes, I’d give him the Nobel.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:01 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:It is high risk high reward.
Also, if NK deal blows up, he’s hurt bad.
If a deal does get passed, I think it would help his reelection changes (but only by a small amount because voters have short memories)
Beyond approval ratings and elections though, a NK deal would probably mean you can't rate trump as the worst prez of all time. A fair rating would be middle of the pack
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:02 pm to JuiceTerry
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People that voted for trump could give a shite about his credibility
Pretty amazing
Not really.
His hard core base doesn't care what he does. Most of the people in this thread are a part of that. They thought he'd clean out the swamp...now that he has proven to be a part of that swamp they refuse to admit their error. You can't fight with the faithful...in their minds they have never been wrong about anything.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Beyond approval ratings and elections though, a NK deal would probably mean you can't rate trump as the worst prez of all time. A fair rating would be middle of the pack
I agree.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:03 pm to Jjdoc
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Trump is at 50% approval rating, his support over the past 2 weeks has doubled with Black Americans. His support with 18-34 year olds has caused the dems to slip 9 points. In that 18-34 age bracket, white support has flipped. He is almost at 50% while the dems sit closer to 30% .
Dude, goddamn....don't treat me like an idiot. You know that everything you just wrote is fricking false.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:06 pm to mmmmmbeeer
quote:His rcp avg is 44%....not 50%, but not totally bad either. 44% means you have a pretty solid base of support plus a decent chunk of indies. It's not far off from a long run average. If NK stuff pans out, trump will approach 50% in the averages, if only for a short while.
You know that everything you just wrote is fricking false.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm to rumproast
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But I have.
No you have not. You made a claim back up by "It's true because I said it"
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Understand.... Nobody gives a frick about your attempt to try and show how clever you are by trying to point out what you perceive (erroneously) as a mis-use of literary terms.
There you go again. This isn't about a mis-use of literary terms. This is about you claiming a contradiction without presenting facts and needing people to just agree with the zero facts you presented.
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Why dont you discuss the topic instead of playing literary cop?
I am. However, you refuse to present any facts.
The truth is there is no contradiction here. It's just a need for SOMETHING... JUST ANYTHING to be bad for Trump.
It's not.
1- Nobody was ignorant to Trump's past.
2- Nobody cares that she was paid. There is a friggin slush fund for congress!
There is no contradiction to say "I didn't know" and then for Rudy to say Trump paid the money back through installments.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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IF this was about some bigger deal like russia or something, I would agree with you. But I see no evidence that this particular episode (stormy pay off) is something that indies care about. I think a recent poll had it like 27% of Americans think it is an issue they care about.
There is some polling evidence that trump is gaining with indies, anyway. He is up to 44 in rcp average. That means he is improving a bit with indies.
I can't deny what you're saying, man. There is SO much chaos with this administration that a $130k payment to a porn star to keep quiet about fricking the republican nominee for POTUS less than a month before the election is nothing more than a blip on the radar screen. Think about that....really. This would be all over the news every fricking day and a typical president would likely face at least a vote for impeachment. With Trump, he's SOOOOO full of shite and such an unethical man that no one thinks twice about this story.
With all that said, I think this hurts his credibility on other issues. He straight up lied, on camera, to the American people and his own fricking lawyer let us know it happened. A man is only as good as his word.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:09 pm to Jjdoc
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There is no contradiction to say "I didn't know" and then for Rudy to say Trump paid the money back through installments.
Like I said. Doesn't matter what Trump says or does. He could actually murder someone on live tv and people like you would spin it.
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