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re: Trump will have to explain what Guliani said.

Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:50 pm to
Where did the $130k as a campaign contribution allegation come from?

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Let's be real here, if you are part of the looney left fringe, which no doubt you are, Trump's credibility has always been and will alway be in the toilet with you nut jobs. Anyone who thinks you loons will ever find a reason to give him credibility is smoking crack. So please spare us the moral outrage that he continues to lose credibility with you looney bastards.



It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to
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People that voted for trump could give a shite about his credibility
Pretty amazing
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Go look up the dates yourself you lazy frick. You clearly need something to do.



Exactly what I thought. BTW, they should have taught you while in law school that this would be considered a case lost.

If you need that explained to you, I can help with that too.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:54 pm to
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It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?
IF this was about some bigger deal like russia or something, I would agree with you. But I see no evidence that this particular episode (stormy pay off) is something that indies care about. I think a recent poll had it like 27% of Americans think it is an issue they care about.

There is some polling evidence that trump is gaining with indies, anyway. He is up to 44 in rcp average. That means he is improving a bit with indies.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to
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It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?



This country has the attention span of gnats.

This story, like Hillary emails or Benghazi or whatever, is already way oversaturated for the average American to care.

Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to
But I have. You just are more interested in playing literary super smart sleuth guy than actually reading or comprehending. Understand.... Nobody gives a frick about your attempt to try and show how clever you are by trying to point out what you perceive (erroneously) as a mis-use of literary terms. (At least I dont.) You bore me. Why dont you discuss the topic instead of playing literary cop? Now go away.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:55 pm to
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It's about the independents.
In that case, your guys are in a world of hurt. Even before NoKo, China trade, and NAFTA restructuring, Trump is gaining amongst independents. Sorry.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:57 pm to
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This story, like Hillary emails or Benghazi or whatever, is already way oversaturated for the average American to care.
Not comparable issues at all.


hillary emails were a fricking huge issue for voters, and why she lost the election.

The stormy stuff has been a dud since WSJ broke the story months ago
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:57 pm to
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It's about the independents. I thought that was obvious to anyone with any sense of politics?




Trump is at 50% approval rating, his support over the past 2 weeks has doubled with Black Americans. His support with 18-34 year olds has caused the dems to slip 9 points. In that 18-34 age bracket, white support has flipped. He is almost at 50% while the dems sit closer to 30% .
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:58 pm to
Good grief- people like you are the reason that people like Maxine Waters and Sheila J Lee have been sitting in DC for 30 years with exactly zero accomplishments. Ignorance breeds ignorance.

There’s little use in explaining anything to people like you, bc you either can’t, or refuse to, think for yourself.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:59 pm to
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Trump is gaining amongst independents. Sorry.


Probably. But can he hold it together til the midterms?

Also, if NK deal blows up, he’s hurt bad.

Now I can’t stand Trump. But I sure hope he closes the NK deal, no matter what the politics. And yes, I’d give him the Nobel.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:01 pm to
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Also, if NK deal blows up, he’s hurt bad.
It is high risk high reward.

If a deal does get passed, I think it would help his reelection changes (but only by a small amount because voters have short memories)

Beyond approval ratings and elections though, a NK deal would probably mean you can't rate trump as the worst prez of all time. A fair rating would be middle of the pack
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:02 pm to
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People that voted for trump could give a shite about his credibility
Pretty amazing


Not really.

His hard core base doesn't care what he does. Most of the people in this thread are a part of that. They thought he'd clean out the swamp...now that he has proven to be a part of that swamp they refuse to admit their error. You can't fight with the faithful...in their minds they have never been wrong about anything.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:02 pm to
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Beyond approval ratings and elections though, a NK deal would probably mean you can't rate trump as the worst prez of all time. A fair rating would be middle of the pack



I agree.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:03 pm to
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Trump is at 50% approval rating, his support over the past 2 weeks has doubled with Black Americans. His support with 18-34 year olds has caused the dems to slip 9 points. In that 18-34 age bracket, white support has flipped. He is almost at 50% while the dems sit closer to 30% .


Dude, goddamn....don't treat me like an idiot. You know that everything you just wrote is fricking false.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74144 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:06 pm to
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You know that everything you just wrote is fricking false.
His rcp avg is 44%....not 50%, but not totally bad either. 44% means you have a pretty solid base of support plus a decent chunk of indies. It's not far off from a long run average. If NK stuff pans out, trump will approach 50% in the averages, if only for a short while.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm to
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But I have.


No you have not. You made a claim back up by "It's true because I said it"

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Understand.... Nobody gives a frick about your attempt to try and show how clever you are by trying to point out what you perceive (erroneously) as a mis-use of literary terms.


There you go again. This isn't about a mis-use of literary terms. This is about you claiming a contradiction without presenting facts and needing people to just agree with the zero facts you presented.

quote:

Why dont you discuss the topic instead of playing literary cop?


I am. However, you refuse to present any facts.


The truth is there is no contradiction here. It's just a need for SOMETHING... JUST ANYTHING to be bad for Trump.

It's not.

1- Nobody was ignorant to Trump's past.
2- Nobody cares that she was paid. There is a friggin slush fund for congress!

There is no contradiction to say "I didn't know" and then for Rudy to say Trump paid the money back through installments.

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:07 pm to
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IF this was about some bigger deal like russia or something, I would agree with you. But I see no evidence that this particular episode (stormy pay off) is something that indies care about. I think a recent poll had it like 27% of Americans think it is an issue they care about.

There is some polling evidence that trump is gaining with indies, anyway. He is up to 44 in rcp average. That means he is improving a bit with indies.


I can't deny what you're saying, man. There is SO much chaos with this administration that a $130k payment to a porn star to keep quiet about fricking the republican nominee for POTUS less than a month before the election is nothing more than a blip on the radar screen. Think about that....really. This would be all over the news every fricking day and a typical president would likely face at least a vote for impeachment. With Trump, he's SOOOOO full of shite and such an unethical man that no one thinks twice about this story.

With all that said, I think this hurts his credibility on other issues. He straight up lied, on camera, to the American people and his own fricking lawyer let us know it happened. A man is only as good as his word.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:09 pm to
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There is no contradiction to say "I didn't know" and then for Rudy to say Trump paid the money back through installments.




Like I said. Doesn't matter what Trump says or does. He could actually murder someone on live tv and people like you would spin it.

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