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re: Trump vs Kirk.....who is right?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:17 pm to Tigers0918
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:17 pm to Tigers0918
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Republicans have sure turned against the 2A all of a sudden. Now just having a gun on you means you have bad intentions and deserve to die. Can't wait to hear the flop flopping when it happens to a maga person.
Having a gun on you while physically obstructing the lawful duties of law enforcement and then resisting greatly increases your odds of springing a few leaks.
I promise you, I’m infinity times more pro 2A than you and even I can see how yeah, this dumbass fricked around and found out. The law of unintended consequences is a real thing. And frankly, I refuse to feel sorry for a piece of shite who is protecting illegal criminals. frick Alex Pretti and all that stand with him.
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:18 pm to Jugbow
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Context matters,
Does it when it comes to our rights?
It certainly doesn’t when the other side is in charge.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:19 pm to Powerman
quote:He was being a Richard Cranium. We both know it. When the agents gave him orders, he refused to comply. Apparently, he got a rib broken is an altercation with ICE before so he's a SLOW learner. I've got no fricks to give for him.
Was he brandishing the fire arm or was he recording with a camera?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:21 pm to Tigers0918
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Republicans have sure turned against the 2A all of a sudden.
I keep seeing people saying this. But I'm not seeing it in real life. It's weird.
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Now just having a gun on you means you have bad intentions and deserve to die
If you're armed with a loaded pistol and choose to physically struggle against law enforcement in an attempt to obstruct them, do you not believe this opens a completely new can of worms? Or does context not matter and we just keep the conversation as basic as possible to maximize emotions and minimize both logic and productive discourse?
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Can't wait to hear the flop flopping when it happens to a maga person.
MAGA people have already been on the end of worse things, and the Left literally cheered about it.
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We can also talk about the police and ICE agents that have been targeted and murdered in various places in far more than one incident across the nation like this one, some of which happened before Minnesota even blew up again, if you want to dredge that up. Or is that inconvenient and irrelevant now, because a nurse was tragically shot in what looks to be a very unfortunate heat-of-the-moment situation that could have been avoided by not physically resisting the law.
Let's air it out.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:24 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
This is another example of libs lowering their intelligence by pretending to not be able to think critically just to support an argument that anyone would otherwise ignore due to how obviously dumb it is.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:24 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
There are more than a handful of issues on which Trump and I do not see eye to eye, and the 2nd Amendment is one of them. I believe in “Shall not be infringed” in the strictest sense possible.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:27 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
They both are. Trump isn't talkin legality. He's talking common sense. You bring a gun to the riot, you are increasing your odds of getting singled out and you're more likely to die. That's just common sense.
Can you do it legally? Yep.
Is it smart? Nope. Dumb as frick.
Can you do it legally? Yep.
Is it smart? Nope. Dumb as frick.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:28 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Oh neat. More dumbasses saying more dumbass stuff on the PT.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:29 pm to Powerman
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Powerman
Everything out of your mouth is mostly hypocrisy
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:30 pm to Powerman
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Was he brandishing the fire arm or was he recording with a camera?
Was he recording with a camera as a peaceful observer at the scene or was he actively struggling in a physical confrontation with federal law agents?
Just answer that please.
If he had been engaging in his Constitutionally guaranteed right to peacefully assemble and not getting directly involved in active and unlawful obstructionism, would he still be alive?
Answer that too, please.
You're digging yourself deeper into a ridiculously deep hole by ignoring the most obvious details of this incident. Lawyers are supposed to be trained to dissect things like this and pick them apart piece by piece. But you won't even admit the basics here.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:32 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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He was standing off to the side, videoing with his phone, when an ICE agent walked 20+ yards oevr to pepper spray him and then tackle him. His gun, which he never brandished, was removed from his person. He was shot and killed several seconds after he was disarmed.
I am wondering how many more false statements you can make in one paragraph
What I understand from the series of event is that this person came up to where federal agents were doing their job he was wearing a protective bath and brandishing the firearm with multiple rounds of ammunition
I confronted a female and he came in on waffle to assist the lady and got pepper spray and resistance with a weapon and multiple rounds of and during his resistance he was shot
Now tell me what statement I made that was not true
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:32 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Now we know that most on here would lay down like a dog and willingly give the feds their guns if they demanded it.
Where did all these bootlickers come from?
Where did all these bootlickers come from?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:34 pm to UPT
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Does it when it comes to our rights?
It certainly doesn’t when the other side is in charge.
He was carrying, in public, for days or weeks and nothing happened to him until he interfered with law enforcement.
This guy was known to ICE, as he had been obstructing for weeks.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:36 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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But getting in an altercation with armed police while carrying
This key detail, which is the ENTIRE ARGUMENT, is ignored by people like Powerman, the OP, VOR, etc...
This is an irrefutable fact that the idiot that was shot, was actively and purposefully interfering with law enforcement. He didn't just stumble upon something happening and couldn't get out of the way. This retard had an altercation with ICE in the past. These agitators are 100% responsible for their outcome. Only they decide if they will live through the day. The dipshit made a choice. FAFO is not just a humerous acronym. It's a legitimate fact of life.
Cause and effect
Actions and outcomes
The consequences of our own actions
All of these are things that OP, Powerman, etc... have never given a 2nd thought to. My advice to you regressive leftists and TDS clowns, if you have anything in life to live for, then by all means, think before you act. Otherwise, your just another useful idiot doing the bidding of retards like Tim Waltz. Imagine, you chose to give your life for Tim Waltz.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:36 pm to Powerman
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You do realize that many democrats are gun owners right?
You are one of them right?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:39 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I keep seeing people saying this. But I'm not seeing it in real life. It's weird.
It is all over this thread. Instead of having a gun being a right, many MAGA here are giving it conditions. "he had it coming", "you can't show up to a protest with a gun", "he got into an altercation so he had it coming".
At no point did he use a gun or even reach for it. He also didn't start the altercation, he was on the side of the road and went to help a woman while filming with his camera. Then police decided to go to him and spray him with pepper spray. ICE started the altercation.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:39 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Green Chili Tiger
Meme's supposed to have a layer of truth to them to be humerous. You are missing the key ingredient. Truth. But, being a hack leftist, you don't want to hear about how the dumbass that got shot was actively involved in a criminal offense, whilst carrying a sidearm that he did not disclose to federal agents.
Here's a test, if you really think what went down, went down the way you think it did, then why don't you go and replicate exactly what he did with non-ICE law enforcement, and then tell us the results. And since you won't, tell the class why you won't do as your failed heros have done.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:40 pm to Tigers0918
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It is all over this thread. Instead of having a gun being a right, many MAGA here are giving it conditions.
Committing a felony whilst carrying a weapon....yeah, that's a pretty big condition, dumbass.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:41 pm to Patato Salad
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carrying a gun at a protest which many on the right are claiming was a primary basis for him being shot.
Come on dude. That's nowhere near an accurate description & you know it. How is anyone supposed to have a serious conversation with this kind of spinning bullshite going on??
Touching an officer, repeatedly ignoring orders after the fact, & reaching for a gun have been the primary reasons cited on the /Pol/board. All of these are big, obvious no nos & have been since the beginning of time.
He won the Darwin award. The guy made like 8 bad decisions in a row, but everyone wants to jump on the ICE officer. It's ridiculous
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:41 pm to Tigers0918
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At no point did he use a gun or even reach for it. He also didn't start the altercation, he was on the side of the road and went to help a woman while filming with his camera. Then police decided to go to him and spray him with pepper spray. ICE started the altercation.
You know what he wasn't doing?
1. Working
2. Minding his own business
3. Not getting involved in another altercation with ICE.
Goober
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